Joe Rogan considers Brendan Schaub to be good friend, and following the latter’s stoppage loss to Travis Browne at UFC 181, the commentator has told the heavyweight he should consider his future in fighting.

If you saw the bout, then you know that Schaub was hurt by a Browne uppercut in the opening round, and then put away with ground-and-pound strikes. The defeat was Schaub’s fourth in sixth fights, and it marked the third time during that stretch where he’s been finished (although, to be fair, many had him defeating Andrei Arlovski in June, which saw the latter win it by split decision).

Well, Rogan appeared on Schaub and Bryan Callen’s “The Fighter and the Kid” podcast recently, and the experienced martial artist offered Schaub his brutal take on the fight. In addition, Rogan assessed Schaub’s overall game, and questioned whether his buddy has what it takes to defeat top tier heavyweights.

Here is some of what Rogan relayed to Schaub, in the fascinating and yet, extremely uncomfortable episode (quotes via MMA

“The reality of your skill set, where you’re at now, I don’t see you beating the elite guys,” Rogan said. “I don’t see you beating Cain Velasquez. I don’t see you beating Junior dos Santos. I don’t see you beating Fabricio Werdum.”

“You came into fighting fairly late in life,” said Rogan. “You’re a good athlete. You’re a big guy, a strong guy and you can do a lot of things because of that. You’re very dedicated and you’re very disciplined and you get s**t done, but there’s a reality of fluidity of movement, of mechanical efficiency of movement that happens when you get a guy who has trained his whole life at a certain aspect of MMA. Whether it’s wrestling, kickboxing, jiu jitsu … there’s a fluidity of their movement that you don’t really have.”

“I just think there’s a bridge between you and the best guys in the world and I don’t know if you can cross that bridge.”

Schaub said he will continue to fight, and believes he has around four bouts left in him. He also argued that it’s “easy” for Rogan to question whether Schaub should retire, since he has “12 million in the bank.”

Of course, many of Schaub’s supporters and others won’t agree with Rogan on this (and Callen seemed to be supporting the latter’s arguments as well), as they may argue the heavyweight could improve his skills, win some big fights etc.

Rogan repeatedly stated that he was being so brutally honest with Schaub because he cares about him, however, and that he’s worried about the fighter’s long term health, in terms of head trauma.

If you have time, you should watch or listen to the entire show, as it was truly a captivating episode.