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Dana White still at odds with Frank Shamrock

This weekend Tito Ortiz will be inducted into the UFC Hall of Fame. However, despite being a pioneer of the sport, a former UFC champion, and even owning a win over Ortiz inside the Octagon, one man who will likely never know the joy of joining the organization’s elite group of veterans is Frank Shamrock.

Shamrock, who was 5-0 in the UFC, has had personal issues with UFC President Dana White for years and even went so far as to call White a “douchebag” last week while visiting the set of MMA Uncensored. Shamrock has also been critical of the UFC Hall of Fame, questioning its legitimacy without his inclusion. However, it appears he shouldn’t be holding his breath if hoping to one day find himself as part of it.

“Frank Shamrock’s always talking smack. I don’t know what’s worse, Frank Shamrock talking smack like he should be in the Hall of Fame or Spike TV having him on. We have the biggest fight of the year coming up and they have Frank Shamrock on there, the most irrelevant dude on the planet,” said White in a recent interview with Sirius XM Satellite Radio (transcription by FightCove).

“Here’s the thing about the UFC Hall of Fame in all honesty, you know, the UFC Hall of Fame this is – these are guys that we have been inducting that have done a lot for the sport since we’ve have taken over, you know what I mean? Here’s a guy, you know, Frank Shamrock, Frank Shamrock hasn’t done anything for the new UFC,” concluded White, adding Shamrock’s short run in the UFC did not necessarily assist the organization in achieving its current success.


  • Angry Mike says:

    The statements from White are short sighted and unwise. If the purpose of the Hall of Fame is to honor those fighters who helped the UFC succeed after Zuffa took over, it isn’t a traditional Hall of Fame. At least in theory, an athlete is inducted into a hall of fame after an especially successful career, and not because he helped build a particular organization. Was Frank a pioneer who played a role in the development of MMA? Yes. Did he help build up UFC? Who cares? Linking induction to what a fighter has done for UFC suggests that a fighter’s career and impact on the sport aren’t important, and that undermines the stature of the Hall. Better to induct guys like Frank even if you don’t like them because that objectivity and fairness builds the sport, and also reflects well on UFC, and even White himself.

  • Lord Faust says:

    So, Frank did nothing for Zuffa except pour blood, sweat and tears into the product that Zuffa felt was worth a significant risk in buying.

    Frank’s title reign was way more legit than Tito’s. As much as I tend to agree with Dana most of the time, I’m not a fan of him trying to turn Frank into the Trotsky of his revisionist history.

  • hindsightufuk says:

    if Frank isnt worth inducting neither was Royce, Dan Severn or Mark Coleman. None of them did anything for Zuffa

  • AlphaOmega says:

    That’s always one of the problems when the Hall of Fame has a company’s name in front of it. UFC Hall of Fame, WWE Hall of Fame, it’s not really unbiased.

  • MCM says:

    What did Frank do to earn a spot in the UFC HOF? He wasn’t the first LHW champ and his 5-0 run wasn’t really over the best in the game at the time either. If Shamrock gets in the UFC HOF, shouldn’t guys like Bas Rutten get in?
    MMA HOF is one thing, but this argument is the UFC HOF, and Frank just isn’t deserving IMO.

    (that’s a lot of acronyms)

  • Rece Rock says:

    It’s personal…shamrock rubs zuffa brass the wrong way & Shamrock isn’t interested in sucking dick, & likes to pop off at the mouth any chance he gets since he’s a show time employee… If he was a Zuffa employee he’d be playing the game.

    Frank has given to the sport and still does… He even was in the street rallying for mma in NYC not that long ago…. But his personality is a bit douchey & cocky. Dana can reason all he wants but he knows it’s personal.

  • Brendhan Conlan says:

    As they said on MMA Uncensored, Shamrock doesn’t deserve to be in the UFC Hall of Fame but absolutely deserves to be in the MMA Hall of Fame.

  • JBAR says:

    Wins over Kevin Jackson, Jeremey Horn and Tito Ortiz are pretty notable wins especially when you look at where those fighters and MMA were at when they happened. The double leg takedown of Igor Zinoviev is still to this day the best execution of a double leg I have seen in MMA. He won and defended the middleweight belt (later changed to the LHW belt) and left the organization with a 5-0 record. If he was a Zuffa boy he would be in hands down but he is not so he will not get in.

    I liked Shamrock as a fighter but there are a lot of guys more deserving of the HOF, Don Frye comes to mind. He brought striking back to MMA at a time when most people felt you had to be a world class wrestler or BJJ guy to win.

  • ssundell says:

    “New UFC”, eh? So, let’s look at some of the names in the Hall of Fame.

    Royce Gracie fought once in Zuffa-owned UFC, and lost. You could argue he brought his legacy and name into the ring, but by that token, James Toney is surely HOF-bound.

    Ken Shamrock went 1-4 in Zuffa-era UFC. I guess being a punching bag for Tito counts as HOF material, since three of those losses were to Ortiz.

    Dan Severn never fought for Zuffa UFC.

    Mark Coleman – didn’t fight in the UFC between Zuffa buy and HOF induction. Pride, you say? Nope, didn’t fight in Zuffa Pride either. Went 1-2 after the induction.

    Every name on that list has a place in history books, but only if you take a look at the non-Zuffa era. And if you go there, then it’s really hard to turn a blind eye to a man who was the first MW/LHW champion and retired from the company as an undefeated champion.

    Downplaying Frank’s competition doesn’t really cut it, since as JBAR said, the wins were against game opponents – Jackson was olympic gold medalist in wrestling, undefeated in MMA and winner of previous UFC MW/LHW tournament, Horn was in the beginning of his career but already had a pretty respectable record, and Tito was Tito. 😉

    Who would’ve been better challengers? Randy and Vitor might’ve been good choices, but both fought in heavyweight back then. Vitor had one fight in MW/LHW before leaving for Pride, and that was the blitzing of Wanderlei, which took one potential (although back then unknown) challenger out of the picture. If you think the line of contendership in current UFC is unclear, back in the day it was laughable, since they were introducing new faces all the time (same thing happened in Pride as well, so the whole MMA field was pretty unclear at that point).

    And since Dana is big on excitement, it should also be noted that all Frank’s UFC fights ended with a finish.


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