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A Look Back at “UFC 121: Lesnar vs. Velasquez”

The day after the defending World Series champion New York Yankees were knocked out of the MLB playoffs by a more well-rounded team and just hours after #1 Oklahoma was knocked from the ranks of the unbeaten by the home team, the top heavyweight in the UFC was knocked off his throne by the more well-rounded fighter with a home cage advantage. It was an exciting conclusion to an up and down night of fights that saw poor gameplans, poor conditioning, and poor outcomes for fighters that are often compared to apes.

Cain Velasquez defeated Brock Lesnar by TKO (Strikes) at 4:12 in Round One to win the UFC Heavyweight Title

It was the biggest heavyweight fight in UFC history: Undefeated top contender Cain Velasquez against heavyweight champion Brock Lesnar. No matter what anyone says, no one was sold 100% on who was winning this fight. Fans, media, and fighters were all split. Even if they thought Cain would win, they knew Brock had a great chance and vice versa. And if they didn’t have this kind of thinking and truly thought one fighter would steamroll the other, their opinion probably doesn’t hold much weight.

The heat in this fight was incredible. No one was sitting or silent during the introductions. When Herb Dean told the fighters, “Lets fight” they came out guns a blazing. Lesnar went for a takedown that was stuffed, they traded punches in the clinch, Lesnar got a takedown, Velasquez got back up, and that’s when it seemed like Lesnar was out of options. He tried to strike with Velasquez but the power and speed was too much for him to overcome. Velasquez managed to get a takedown of his own and even though he got up, Lesnar took a beating on the bottom. After ungracefully tumbling across the octagon, Lesnar never recovered. Velasquez turned in on with a flurry of strikes that eventually dropped the champion and on the ground he controlled Lesnar, stayed on top, and picked his shots. Whether you believe that Lesnar verbally submitted the Herb stopped him from continuing to take a beating, the end result remains the same. Mr. Velasquez: Still undefeated, still Mexican (did you know that he’s Mexican?), now champion.

Lesnar stayed classy in defeat. Did anyone expect anything less after the fight? For the first time in his MMA career, he truly got whooped. No lucky submission, no comeback, just a straight up butt kicking. For all the talk of Lesnar’s cardio, he sure didn’t have it in the fight. After his initial flurry, he was completely gassed out. In hindsight, it probably wasn’t the best idea for him to come charging out of the gates like he was a bull and Cain was the matador. Doesn’t he know that the matador always wins? Lesnar had his chance in this fight. He had Cain down and he couldn’t do anything with him. He was using his jab well, he landed a couple of good right hands, but he’s just so uncomfortable on his feet and he couldn’t deal with the movement and angles of Velasquez. He’ll be back though and we’ll see how he reacts to truly taking a beating. I expect that he’ll be back stronger and that he’ll work harder. Luckily for him, it’s very likely that he’ll another chance to further scramble the eggs of Frank Mir. If Lesnar only loves three things in life then it’s hunting, scrambled eggs, hunting Mir to turn him into scrambled eggs.

Velasquez did exactly what he needed to do. He weathered an early storm and changed the forecast much quicker than most expected. He proved that all the size in the world doesn’t always help against superior speed and technique. I’d say he fought a perfect fight but knowing how Cain thinks, he’s probably disappointed that he got taken down, got hit, and didn’t connect with every strike. This man is a machine whose biggest threat to the title is himself. As long as he stays humble and keeps working hard, he’s going to have a long run at the top. Junior dos Santos provides a threat, especially on the feet, but Velasquez just seems to be on another level.

Predicted Next Fights: Velasquez vs. dos Santos – Lesnar vs. Mir 3

Jake Shields defeated Martin Kampmann by Split Decision (29-28, 27-30, 28-29)

There was a lot of pressure on Jake Shields in his UFC debut. A win would earn him a welterweight title shot against Georges St. Pierre and a loss would have Dana White wondering why the hell he tried so hard to sign this guy. Martin Kampmann on the other hand had no pressure. There was nothing on the line for himself except his record and a chance to spoil Shields’ debut. In the end, Jon Fitch may have been the biggest winner.

Shields started off strong in this fight. He got an early takedown and showed off the grappling skills that had led him to 14 straight victories prior to this bout. Kampmann managed to survive on the ground but the grappling disparity between the two fighters was clearly evident. After a rather dominant first round, Shields walked back to his corner and looked a bit tired. Then in the second round, Kampmann hit Shields with a big knee that rocked him. Instead of following up on the feet, Kampmann was content with playing the grappling game with the superior grappler. While he managed to stuff a few takedowns, he just wasn’t able to create any distance and really let his hands go. The third round was more of the same except Kampmann did a much better job on the ground for most of the round until going for a submission that ended up costing him the position and possibly the fight. I scored the fight for Shields and despite three different scores from the judges, none of them seemed wrong. This fight could have gone either way but in the eyes of the judges, Shields did just enough to win.

Simply put, Kampmann had a bad gameplan in this fight and he gave away the victory. He was afraid to let his hands go on the feet, even when it was clear that Shields was dead tired and he was content with trying to grapple with Shields, even when it was clear that he wasn’t going to submit him. Kampmann could have won this fight if he had just done a better job at creating distance. Instead he played right into the hands of Shields’ and it cost him dearly. Most fighters gain fans after losing a close decision that a lot of people thought they won. Kampmann won’t be one of those fighters. He needs to come back with a strong performance, remind fans that he can be exciting, and prove that the judges got it wrong.

Shields did everything we expected him to do in this fight. He threw almost nothing but kicks on the feet, he went for a lot of takedowns, he out-grappled Kampmann, and he did just enough to win the decision. It just wasn’t very pretty to watch. Reports heading into the fight was that he had a tough weight cut and it certainly showed. He usually has very good cardio but it just wasn’t there this past Saturday. Despite what Dana may have said before the fight, this was not a performance that made anyone believe that Shields has a chance against St. Pierre. If he’s going to get a title shot, Shields’ best hope is for Josh Koscheck to beat St. Pierre since Fitch and Koscheck won’t fight each other. Otherwise it may just depend on Dana’s mood and the flip of a coin as to who gets the next title shot.

Predicted Next Fights: Shields vs. Condit – Kampmann vs. Hardy

Diego Sanchez defeated Paulo Thiago by Unanimous Decision (30-26, 29-28, 29-28)

After an unsuccessful first fight back in the welterweight division, Diego Sanchez decided to give it another go against the always tough Paulo Thiago. Many questioned this decision and questioned it even more when Sanchez talked about moving back down to lightweight after this fight. We all learned that unless you’re a teacher, you probably shouldn’t ask so many questions.

Thiago tried to send Sanchez back down to lightweight right away as he controlled the first round with good counter striking, excellent takedown defense, and great grappling. In between rounds God decided that he got tired of watching one of his most loyal sons take a beating and brought “Nightmare” back to Sanchez. In the second and third rounds, Sanchez looked like the fighter we all grew to love during his early UFC run. He was pushing the pace and remembering what had always made him successful. He gassed out Thiago with his ability to scramble, control things on the ground, and relentless ground and pound. One questionable score aside, the judges all agreed that Sanchez won the bout and got back on track inside the octagon.

This was a heartbreaking loss for Thiago. He was catching Sanchez at the perfect time, he had something to prove coming off a loss, and he matched up relatively well with his opponent. I guess Brazilian special ops missions don’t last very long because Thiago just didn’t have the gas to hang with Sanchez. If he improves his cardio, he can still be a threat at 170 but until then, he’s just going to hang around the middle of the division. He’s had a tough road in the UFC and with two straight loses it could either get easier (a mid-level opponent) or harder (being cut).

If Sanchez’ goal was to prove that he belongs at welterweight, he achieved it. I still think he’s better off at lightweight because he’s still undersized at 170 and his cardio won’t be able to carry him against the top of the division. Now that he’s back with Greg Jackson though, I expect to see Sanchez continue to get back to his roots while also improving his all-around game.

Predicted Next Fights: Thiago vs. Daniel Roberts – Sanchez vs. Joe Lauzon or Takanori Gomi

Matt Hamill defeated Tito Ortiz by Unanimous Decision (29-28, 29-28, 30-27)

Coming in with no wins in his last four fights, Tito Ortiz’ surgically repaired back was against the wall. He was given a chance to shine against his former student Matt Hamill and prove that he had one last run in his tank. He failed.

The fight was all on the feet early. Ortiz came out like he had something to prove and then reverted back to his basic boxing ways while Hamill did a nice job mixing things up. While they may have connected with the same number of strikes in the first round, Hamill’s power bested Ortiz and it showed on his opponents abnormally large head. The second round was more of the same except that Hamill was able to easily land a takedown, where he battered Ortiz with strikes and avoided any submission attempt. By the start of the third round, it looked like Hamill was toying with Ortiz on the feet. He was no longer keeping his hands high and in fact, he was “Diazing” with his hands. This would usually be cause for concern except that he was actually getting away with it. After getting bored with punching Ortiz in his big head, Hamill used the brain in his soft head to secure victory by easily gaining another takedown. Hamill ended the fight with a flurry of punches and elbows to show the entire world that the student had become the master.

I’m not sad to say that Ortiz is done, not only as a top competitor but also as a fighter. Maybe he won’t get released but this fight wasn’t close in my book. He got beat on the feet, his takedowns were easily stuffed, and he showed no resistance when Hamill shot in. If this was Ortiz at 100% health then he’s better off fighting injured because at least then he’d have an excuse. Not only does he not have the skills to compete anymore but he’s become almost irrelevant in the big picture. He was the second fight on the card, he hasn’t won since 2006, he’s no longer this big draw, and he’s really worn out his time with most fans thanks to his attitude. No one will pay to see him fight and even worse, no one will pay to see him get beat up. I hate when a main card fighter gets released but he’s making too much to be regulated to the prelims and I don’t know who they can pair him up with that would make fans actually care.

While Hamill may have modeled his game after Ortiz, he proved that he’s already much better. It was rather shocking to see how well he did in the striking department against someone with a lot more experience. Again, by the third round, he looked like he was toying with Ortiz on the feet. Not only did his striking look good but he easily out-wrestled Ortiz and knew exactly when to go for takedowns. I’m not sure if he can be a top light heavyweight but I do think he can hang with most of the fighters in the division and surprise a lot of people with his skills.

Predicted Next Fights: Hamill vs. Antonio Rogerio Nogueira – Ortiz vs. Unemployment

Brendan Schaub defeated Gabriel Gonzaga by Unanimous Decision (30-27, 30-27, 30-27)

When Brendan Schaub and Gabriel Gonzaga were slated to hook up, few thought it would go to a decision. After all, neither man had ever been to a decision and most of the time their fights ended in the first round. As the old saying goes, there is a first time for everything.

The story of this fight was Schaub’s speed. He moved in and out well, showed good angle, and pressed the fight when he needed to. He ended up catching Gonzaga a couple of times in the first round and dropped him right at the bell. In the next two rounds it was more of the same. As usual with Gonzaga, whenever he was pressed, he wilted. Gonzaga had a tough time dealing with the speed of Schaub and he couldn’t land that one big power shot. Schaub slowed down as the fight went on but Gonzaga slowed down as well. Gonzaga had success with leg kicks but for some reason went away from them by the midway point in the second round. The end result was Schaub winning a comfortable decision.

With this loss, Gonzaga maintains his gatekeeper status. It’s a tough job but someone has to do it. He fought a losing fight against Schaub. He went away from his leg kicks even though they were clearly slowing down Schaub and he’s seemingly completely abandoned his jiu-jitsu game. He also continues to wilt when he’s pressed and until he learns how to move from side and side and not straight back, fighters are just going to attack him and test his chin. It’s a shame he’s a mental flake because the skills are there, the mindset isn’t.

This was a good win for Schaub but also a bit telling. Although he beat Gonzaga, he couldn’t finish him, which is a bit of a red flag. He fought a great fight and did what he needed to do but I’m still not buying into him like others might. He passed the gatekeeper test, which is a huge victory but he’s still got a ways to go before he’s considered a heavyweight threat. If UFC brings him along slowly he could develop into a top contender. He’s still relatively young, he trains with a good camp, and he’s an athletic heavyweight.

Predicted Next Fights: Schaub vs. McCorkle/Struve Winner – Gonzaga vs. Jon Madsen

PHOTO CREDIT – UFC

32 COMMENTS
  • elkymbo says:

    Makes up for ufc 120. That card was entertaining top to bottom. Except for Jake Shields. Possible most boring fight ever in the works if he fights Jon Fitch.
    I’m interested to se how Brock bounces back from this one.
    For fuck sake Dana sign Fedor. There’s heaps of good fights for him in the ufc. I know his management sucks and it would be difficult but I’d love to see him fight any of the ufc’s top heavyweights.
    Oh yeah, I loved Matt Hamill beating up Tito. Just tops.

  • boomnutz says:

    i actually thought this card was a little boring until the nightmare entered the scene, no offense to Cain, but Diego’s was by far the most impressive performance, in the beginning i liked Diego then i started rooting against him, but i love him after this fight…if you want a poster child for what hard work in the gym and just heart and grit, will do for you show this fight to people. he got beat in the first round and then DOMINATED, i thought we were looking at a fight of the year candidate but then Diego dominated a little too much

  • Dufresne says:

    Why won’t Kampmann develop a gameplan that goes against his opponents strengths? Kampmann has the tools to beat almost anyone in the division if he’ll just stop trying to beat people at their game. But even with that, he still won the fight in my books.

    Hey Gonzaga, did you know you’re a world class BJJ practitioner? No? That’s evident. Seriously buddy, you gotta stop trying to strike with everyone. Yeah the fans love watching you get punched in the mouth, but you could do so much better if you’d go out planning on doing what you did in the last 5 seconds of round 3 against Schaub. You locked in a RNC in record time, but because your dumbass waited until the very end of the fight, you still lost.

    Hey Tito, how soft did Hamill’s head feel to you? Not too soft huh? Jackass.

    Diego looked like the same guy we’ve seen in the last few fights in that first round, but something inside Dr. Banner snapped in the 2nd round and the Nightmare of old came screaming (literally) back. Awesome turn around and win.

    Cain… Wow. I’ve been picking against Cain since this matchup was suggested almost a year ago, and man was I proven wrong. I will say in my defense though, if they had fought a year ago I think Brock would have won. At that time Cain’s standup just wasn’t where it is now. Cain’s standup has been evolving since he came into the UFC, but since the Kongo fight it seems to have been evolving at an exponential rate. I still think JDS has better striking, but after seeing just how impressive Cain’s wrestling is, I don’t think JDS is going to get a chance to use it much. Cain you jumped from #3 in my ranking of UFC heavyweights to #1 in less than 5 minutes. Damn good job.

  • Guthookd says:

    Damn good fights.

    Brock got handled, finally. Nice job by Cain of using his speed and breaking Brock’s will. After those first couple TD attempts things got interesting for sure. Cain managed to avoid Brock’s strengths and just tear him apart. I was impressed to the fullest.

    Nice to see Tito get spanked with his own technique. GnP lunch for the Beach Boy.

    Diego was on fire in his fight. Paulo just couldn’t hang with that pace. Great action.

    Shaub is turning into a good fighter too. I was surprized that Gonzo didn’t try for takedowns more often, but I guess he learned his lesson (maybe). Can’t wait to see who is up next for Shaub.

    All in all, great card with a nice mix of outcomes.

  • Angry Mike says:

    Hindsight sees 20/20, but Kampmann should have let his hands go. I’m certain he was worried about takedowns, but his only hope for the win was to strike. Why he didn’t cut loose in the third when Shields was gassed is a mystery.

    Gonzaga may have wanted to use his BJJ, but he was flat on his feet and slow through the entire fight. He couldn’t catch up to Schaub and didn’t really have a chance for his ground game. Schaub had good speed as compared to Gonzaga, but that’s not saying much. He’s small for a heavyweight and his power is questionable. He’s got a lot to prove before I’m willing to say he’s anything more than average in the UFC heavyweight division.

    And Cain’s win was all about conditioning. He had cardio to burn, and Brock burned all his early in the first round. Very surprising.

  • fanoftna33 says:

    Loved the fights, but for sure Deigo vs Thiago was a great one. Although how in the hell could anybody who knows ANYTHING about mma give Deigo a 30-26 socre?????
    great fights though.

  • Clay The Caveman Guida says:

    Cain is Californian, not Mexican. I am an Olson. If I were the heavyweight champion would they exclaim, “There he is. The first Norwegian Champion.” No they would not.

  • Rich S. says:

    Props to Cain for defeating the giant. But, I just don’t see what he did differently than anyone else to take out Lesnar. Thumb me down into oblivion, but I can’t help but think that Cain’s win was as much Lesnar’s fault, if not more so, than Cain’s. I think Cain’s a great fighter. He fights with this incredible intensity that we haven’t seen in a long time, especially at Heavyweight. But, other than that, he just takes you down and pounds you. I guess his style does something, throws off his opponents. Because all of his opponents have looked like damn fools. There is only one punch I noticed that could have sent Brock all over the place without a lick of balance. Maybe that’s what it was, or maybe Lesnar just came out foolishly and payed the price. Eh, it’s hard to word my thoughts exactly.

    To me, Diego Sanchez had the most impressive performance of the night. I believe my comments before the fight were “Unless Diego changes something, wake me up when it’s over and I’ll assume Thiago handled him.” Diego changed something. Early, he looked the same, getting hit while missing shots of his own, and surprisingly weak in the clinch. But, somewhere along the line he unleashed the beast and went “Nightmare” on Paulo’s ass. This fight was one of my favorites in quite a while. I love a good ground battle and that’s what we saw. It flashed me back to Sanchez/Diaz, one of my favorites of all time. All the squirming and sweeping on the ground was just beautiful. And then Diego latched onto his back and I flashed back to Sanchez/Alessio. If he keeps up that attitude and those performances, I wouldn’t even mind him staying at 170. But, at 155? He’ll be working his way up quickly.

    Jake Shields is a wizard. Not in the sense that his ground game is like magic, but the sense that no matter how outmatched he his before the fight (Hendo) or during the fight (Kampmann) his opponents just fight stupid. Even when all his energy is gone, his muscles worn, his breaths short, his opponents just can’t capitalize. I mean GOOD GOD. At this point he’ll end up beating GSP (or Kos) with some of that wizardry. How could Kampmann be ready to go ten, when Shields gassed in the 2nd, yet not win? I can’t grasp that. How? His best bet was on the feet, but he seemed to avoid striking at all costs. And at the end I heard him mention how he was close on a submission. No, Martin, you were never close. Jake gave you his neck time after time KNOWINGLY, because you never even got close to posing a threat with submissions.

    I’m amazed that Gonzaga lasted three rounds. I’m not sure if I’m wrong about his chin, or about Schaub’s hands.

  • king mah mah says:

    I agree with everything this article said except about Tito.

    I didn’t think he looked all that bad. It was obvious to me he won the first round. Plus it’s kind of degrading to Hamill to suggest he won simply because Ortiz is so shitty rather than him stepping up his own game.

    I’ll be shocked if they get rid of Ortiz.

  • king mah mah says:

    Oh yeah one more thing.

    I’m soooooooooooo tired of hearing about Cain being Mexican. The fact that he dedicates the win to people in Mexico is just disgusting. If he wants to be Mexican so bad then he can go back and live there.

    Look I’ve got German, Italian, and even a little Native American in me. But that doesn’t mean i’m going to dedicate my life accomplishments to Germany, Italy, or Dances With Wolves…..lol. I’m just sick of hearing this stuff. Aren’t you guys?

    It’s fine to be proud of your roots, but this is just out of control.

  • manny says:

    King mah mah- Def not out of control, the ufc used his heritage to promote the fight, he just went with it and received a lot of support. Many people out ther can relate to him but I do agree he is an american. Just by looking at him and knowing his name u would think just another mexican but when he destroys lesnar and he dedicates his fight to his roots everyone is like, he’s not mexican he’s america. Am I right or am i right?? Either way who cares about what race he is, he’s the Champ!

  • king mah mah says:

    @manny- I could care less what race anybody is. That’s why I don’t want to be reminded of it time and time again. I think he’s a great fighter and a humble champion. But the fact that he tattoo’s Brown Pride on his chest suggests to me that maybe he’s the one that’s concerned with race.

  • Rich S. says:

    I just don’t see why they emphasized Cain’s race over his skill and the threat he posed to Brock. We’ve got two Brazilian champions and a French Canadian. No one heritage is going to struggle more than another to win a championship belt. It’s all about the fighter, and the fight.

    But, hey. Maybe they raised their Hispanic views. Maybe that was a demographic that was lacking and they decided to go for it. I don’t know.

  • MCM says:

    I didn’t know Cain was Mexican.

  • Guthookd says:

    What?? Cain is Mexican?!??!!?!?!!!

    😉

  • JOEgun says:

    both my parents are from Mexico. i was born in Texas. ethnically im Mexican and geographically i am American. Do i care? no, i do not care. But thats just me. im not nationalistic or patriotic or any of that stuff. i dont care for it and i dont care to hear about it from fighters. To me its completely irrelevant to my intetest in a particular fighter.
    I did get tired of hearing the whole “mexican” over and over, but i know its just business. The UFC wants to reach out to a wider audience and thats makes sense from a business perspective.
    Anyway, the fight went exactly how i predicted it but i did not think Cain would whoop Lesnars ass within the first round.
    I hope Kampman learns from his very very stupid mistake. I hope Gonzaga learns something too.
    Diego Sanchez impressed me. I thought Thiago was going to win. I like Diego at 170 but wouldnt mind seeing him back at 155 and stay at Greg Jacksons camp

  • hindsightufuk says:

    i believe Cain is the first ever Mexican heavyweight champion, not just in the UFC, not just in MMA, not just in boxing but in allllllllllllllllllllllll of combat sports.
    thats a pretty fucking big deal.
    for a guy who’s parentage comes from a developing nation, its huge
    i guess a lot of white folks dont fully appreciate the representation of a minorities culture, its not something you can learn. to be proud of your for forefathers struggles isnt something most white people can relate to

    but hey thats just my opinion, maybe i should just go the fuck back to my own country hey?

    personally i get sick as fuck of people thanking the baby jesus after each fight, guess people get touchy over certain things

    oh, and i’m not a hater, some of my best friends are wack

  • MCM says:

    2nd. Ricco Rodriguez was the first. He just didn’t make a big deal out of it.

    And people need to study their history (at least here in America). White people have been discriminated against too. Irish, Italians, Easter Europeans have all had their time scraping the bottom of the barrel. I grew up overseas as a minority and I never once thought of getting a tattoo that said anything about my skin color. Basically cause skin color is nothing to be proud of it’s not an accomplishment, nobody achieved “browness” or “blackness” or “whiteness” (‘cept Michael Jackson), it’s just what something you are. Cain should be proud as hell for getting the HW belt and doing it while coming from a dirt poor background, his skin color has fuck all to do it.

    But you can’t blame Cain for working the Mexican angle. I don’t get Marcus Davis’s “Irish pride” thing either but they love it in the UK so you can’t actually fault Cain for playing it up here.

    werd ’bout the baby jesus thing though.

  • jasonah says:

    looking back at this, some stuff is obvious. Diego is a still the animal that he was back in the day,that was vintage Diego Sanchez that came to fight on saturday.as far as Gonzaga goes he has not looked that good since, Randy smashed his nose when they fought. he seems like his got his will to win broken.As far as the whole Tito thing,I dont see him going anywhere @ 205 in the U.F.C. That division is way to deep with talent, for him to put together 3-4 in a row to get back to belt. It is obvious that Tito has not Evolved as a fighter in the 13 years he has been in the octagon.He still goes with what won him fight’s 10 years ago.guy’s like him and Chuck and Randy and Wanderlie are the legends of the octagon.It seems like we are witnessing a change of guard in M.M.A . The old dogs are injured or they lose fight’s.we are now watching the second generation M.M.A fighters compete.As far as BROCK LESNAR is concerned. we seen how bad his skills are he looked bad with his technique. and got his ass kicked,”Oh DAMN THAT’S GOING TO LEAVE A MARK” And it was Really Funny that the Undertaker was there to call him out after the fight.He will be going back to the W.W,E watch! Because the way he speaks about himself from a third person perspective,BROCK LESNAR,” DOES NOT GET HIS ASS KICKED LIKE THAT”

  • BigDave says:

    Are you proud of your heritage? I know I am. Why does that even matter to anything. We should all be proud of who we are and where we came from. Fact of the matter is in this situation it completely irrelevent.

    Cain is The UFC HW Champ end of story.

    Oh and king mah mah, ever heard of roberto duran,Marco Antonio Barrera,Julio Cesar Chavez, thats just 3 champions in boxing from mexico.

  • “oh, and i’m not a hater, some of my best friends are wack”
    Spectacular line. I for one too could care less about where someone comes from ethnically. I care about what THEY as a person faced, and what THEY as a person have accomplished. But I understand the need for expansion and marketing and if it got buy rates up, good for zuffa.
    Hey BigDave, he said Heavyweight Champion. None of those guys are Heavyweights.

    Cain tore Brock up, and I dont think it was due to Brock looking bad, Cain just had everything down to a science that night. Awesome Job and I cant wait to see him and JDS go at it, as I think JDS will be that first real war that I think Cain really seems to hunger for. Anyone else notice that man is never happy? It seems the more spectacularly he wins, the less happy he is. I think he wants someone to FIGHT him and Jr will oblige.
    Shields should not have been offfered such an early title shot. This fast tracking people up the ladder seems to really not work. Gomi gets kenflo and he gets ran over, kang gets Belcher and winds up losing, Shields gets Kapmann and doesnt really make an impression on most(slick grappling though) Other stars should still at least need tune up fights to get them into the minds of the casual UFC fans making it easier to endear them to us before handing them title shots.

    Diego may be back…but we’ll see. I think Paulo is another example of bad fast tracking. He knocks out one of the better WWs out there, gets mauled by Fitch, beats Swick and now he’s two in the hole, one to a man who just failed at a LW title run . Not too good for a man who people were saying might be a threat to GSP just over a year ago.

    Gonzaga is irritating me lately….Since he got surprize knocked out by Shane Carwin, he’s truly not the same man.

    Tito hasn’t looked that good in a fight since 2006 against an old has been. AND he still lost…I love it. Sorry to fighter bash but I’ve never liked the guy and cant stand all the excuses he has for losing or not dominating even when he wins. I sincerely hope he quits and goes to SF so I can watch Hendo Sobral and Mousasi handle him before he gives up and retires. Hammil was on point that night and I cant wait to continue to watch him climb the ladder. other than Bones, that kid has really been putting on great fights and I’d love to see him fight Brilz, or if Bones gets sidelined…give him Bader. I personally think Bader wouldnt know what to do with The Hammer just as badly as I dont think he knows what to do with Jonny Jones.

  • mma.Australia says:

    “oh, and i’m not a hater, some of my best friends are wack”

    I’m not a racist or homophobic, one of my best friends is half aboriginal and my uncles gay!

    Champagne comment. Quality…

  • king mah mah says:

    @BigDave- Um yeah…………………..and what the hell does a few boxing legends have to do with anything i’ve said? Nothing, nothing at all.

  • elkymbo says:

    So what mma Oz I employ an aboriginal. How fucken awesome is that shit??

  • boomnutz says:

    Duff, i was totally with you, after watching the Kongo fight Cain’s standup was atrocious 3 fights later and you can def. see an improvement. I was the same as you i didn’t think Cain had much of a chance, and to further your point if they fought a year ago it would have been before Carwin hurt Lesnar and therefore i think he would have been less worried about getting hit. Brock’s standup may not be bad, when i bag’s in front of him, but once that bag starts throwing back he turtles up…he can obviously take the punches too so i don’t know what his deal is…He def. needs to join a legit camp, that was my only worry going into the fight, but then again he probably assembled the largest cast of HWs to train with, and Jon Madsen had no problems…

    Anyway, i’m proud to be an AMERICAN first and foremost, America is supposed to be a place where all cultures mixed together, hence the “melting pot” metaphor. It gets a little sickening to hear about him being Mexican over and over, why can’t he be a Mexican American, why’s he got to be a Mexican…

    and not for nothing buyt it’s hypocritical that he can wear brown pride across his chest, but if brock rocked white pride he’d be a target worldwide as a bigot

  • Rece Rock says:

    In my opinion- Cain is just doing what he is told or just going for the ride… DW/ Zuffa want to break into the “hispanic” market… I’m puerto rican & cuban. I think it’s no secret the spanish love there boxing ( and pro wrestling) and DW & Co. want to cash in on that fan base and bring them over to the MMA community and who better than a exciting, hard hitting fighter with hispanic roots… Cain is NOT Mexican he’s American but since when does the truth get in the way of marketing and advertising.

    P.S. Ricco is of Puerto Rican & Mexican decent but he’s a New YoRican so I guess it doesn’t count. He looks more Guido than Vato.

  • hindsightufuk says:

    speaking of Ricco, did you see how trim he looked in Tito’s corner?

  • danw84 says:

    I think Brock completely looked past Cain and thought he’d walk right through him. All the intentionally mispronouncing his name and such “Mr. Velazz-kwezz.”

    He said he learned some humbility in the Carwin fight, hopefully this time he actually did.

  • MMA-LOGIC says:

    Isn’t Mexico made up of several different races just like America? So when you say Mexican, what race do you mean?. I’m from Australia so when I hear that that is racist I don’t understand. If you were to say “I don’t like Australians” that wouldn’t make you a racist… just a dead man.
    No but seriously those Canadians are a bit funny. Just joking.

  • MMA-LOGIC says:

    Oh by the way, would it be OK to have “WHITE PRIDE” tattooed on your chest and have posters made up with “Brock Lesnar, White pride” on it them?
    Just wondering.

    P.S. Hypothetical.

  • boomnutz says:

    lol you aussies are funny, “…it wouldn’t make you a racist, just a dead man” how popular is the UFC over there anyway? when i was there which was like 3 and half years ago it wasn’t too popular yet, is George Sotiropoulos huge???

  • Angry Mike says:

    A Mexican-American heavyweight champ is already old news. Now an Aboriginal-Australian heavyweight champ would be awesome. Screw the bagpipes and the Mariachi music. Didgeridoo walk in music, bitches!

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