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“Strikeforce – Houston” Live Results

FiveOuncesofPain.com will be on-site at the Toyota Center in Houston, Texas to take in all the happenings at tonight’s “Strikeforce – Houston” event and report back live. Coverage of the show will begin prior to the first set of fighters touching gloves at approximately 6:00 p.m ET (4:00 PT). You can also watch the main card unfold on Showtime starting at 10:00 p.m. ET (7:00 PT).

“Strikeforce – Houston” features a pair of championship contests, as current 205-pound champ “King Mo” Lawal defends his title against Rafael “Feijao” Cavalcante in the main event, while middleweights Tim Kennedy and Ronaldo “Jacare” Souza face off in hopes of laying claim to the promotion’s vacant 185-pound strap.

Also in action, lightweights KJ Noons and Jorge Gurgel will look to wow the crowd with what is sure to be a high-energy scrap and former professional wrestler Bobby Lashley looks remind fans of his legitimate MMA ability against 8-1 heavyweight Chad Griggs.

EVENT NOTES:

Five Ounces is officially IN the Toyota Center and I have finally arrived at the D-List…Section D of the media tables that is! First fight doesn’t kick off for 30-40 minutes so feel free to ask questions in the comments section and I’ll do my best to respond throughout.

(5:50) Seen so far in attendance – “Big” John McCarthy, Ed Soares backstage with a very-focused “Feijao”, Josh Gross, and the one and only Ariel Helwani!

(6:00) Jay Z pumping on the speakers. Sounds like they’ve opened the doors to the public.

(6:15) Gurgel warming up in the cage. His red sweatsuit would make Tony Soprano jealous.

(6:22) First fight in eight minutes. Fans still rolling in.

(6:26) A group with Cavalcante, Jacare, and Galvao just walked by me. All of the sudden every joint in my body started aching and I could barely breathe. Weird?!?

(6:28) First pair of fighters in the ring, Wu Tang’s “Triumph” on the speakers. Time to get this show on the road!

(6:40) Crowd looking decent for this early in the night.

(6:46) On his way backstage, Arteneus Young apologizes to media row and some fans for not scoring a knockout.

(7:01) Lots of fans wanting pictures with Herschel Walker who is sitting ringside.

(7:15) Christopher “Big Black” Boykins from “Rob and Big” just rolled into the arena. Suddenly I feel the need for a mini-horse.

(7:41) There has been a Dan Henderson sighting!

(7:53) The arena looks to be about half-full and I don’t see anyone new coming down the rows.

(8:39) Caught Cormier and Riley talking backstage. One of the things I love about MMA is the mutual respect that’s generally found between competitors. Was witness to it tonight.

(8:43) There is a line to take a picture with Dan Henderson at least 20 people deep. Still beloved by fans without a doubt.

(8:58) Jimmy Lennon points out a few fighters in attendance. Very nice response for Cris “Cyborg” Santos. Smattering of boos for Jason “Mayhem” Miler.

(9:00) Arena looks about 2/3 full. Not bad for a non-UFC event in a major venue.

(9:48) Word is surfacing that Lashley has been taken out of the arena on a stretcher and is headed to a local hospital.

A full list of results can be found below:

Chad Cook vs. Arteneus Young

Big John is reffing and gets a nice round of applause from the audience. Lots of local fans here to support Cook/Young.

Cook and Young start out exchanging. Cook shoots in for a takedown but Young fights it off against the cage, then reverses it to take Cook down. Young is in half-guard, moderately working to advance. Young toys with the arm-triangle, but gives it up and the fighters return to their feet. A little feeling-out occurs. Cook attempts another takedown but Young avoids it. The clock is frozen at 1:03 for some reason. Round closes with a successful takedown from Cook but he doesn’t have enough time left to do much other than hope it won him the round.

Round 2 opens with Cook closing distance and going for another takedown. He gets stuffed, then ends up tasting a bit of Young’s leather as a result. More feeling out, a failed takedown, and Cook pulls guard. Young not interested in engaging him on the ground. Both looking a little tired. Feeling out, failed takedown, and more pulling guard. Deja vu all over again as the second stanza ends.

McCarthy looks to have asked both men to let it all hang out during the third round before they start it. Some tentative stand-up is the result. Young is getting the better of the striking exchanges. Cook backs up against the cage but Young doesn’t attack. Cook pulls guard, then Young backs up and raises his hands as though he’s already won. The crowd disapproves of his showboating. I kind of like it. Cook pulls guard again as the round ends.

Winner – Arteneus Young via Unanimous Decision

Humberto DeLeon vs. Chad Robichaux

Lots of love from the crowd for Houston product DeLeon. Also a really nice response for Robichaux, Fight starts with a touch of the gloves, then a bit of stand-up. DeLeon jumps guard, then quickly gives it up. Robichaux ends up delivering a nice slam shortly afterward. More striking with DeLeon sending Robichaux to his back for a second, then backing away. Both men are now letting it all hang out. DeLeon catches him again, gets on top to land a few shots, and then stands back up. Round ends with DeLeon pressed up against the cage.

Robichaux attempts a takedown, fights for it against the cage, and finally gets DeLeon down. Lands some nice shots but can’t finish things. Maintains control until the two scramble and stand again. Robichaux gets another takedown and the clock expires. Looks like the two have split the opening rounds.

Fight stays standing in the third. DeLeon lands a good punch but nothing devastating. A few kicks from both. Robichaux pulls guard, doesn’t look like he wants to deal with DeLeon’s striking after a few lost exchanges. Third frame ends with a couple reckless punches from each fighter. They exchange a high-ten as the fight ends. I’d give it to DeLeon 29-28 if scoring things, meaning…

Winner – Chad Robichaux via Split Decision

Jose Santibanez vs. Reynaldo Trujillo

I predict the winner of this fight will hail from Houston (since they’re both from here). Going out on a limb here clearly.

Fight starts with both throwing reckless punches. Trujillo connects, drops Santibanez, and finishes things from the top. Not sure about the official time but definitely less than a minute.

Winner – Reynaldo Trujillo via TKO Round 1

Kier Gooch vs. Adam Schindler

Gooch is 1-6 while Schindler is 7-1. I wonder who is the underdog in this one?

Schindler takes Gooch down after absorbing a few shots to the chin. Schindler quickly advances position, though Gooch reverses position. Schindler moves back into side control, landing a few small shots while looking for a possible crucifix. Gooch escapes for a second, then Schindler takes his back. Gooch stands up, Schindler locks in a RNC, and before long it’s over.

Winner – Adam Schindler via Submission Round 1 (Rear-Naked Choke)

Rocky Long vs. Vinicius “Draculino” Magalhaes

HUGE response from the crowd for “Draculino”. Impressed with the Houston fans thus far.

The two feel each other out for a few minutes. The audience is anxious. Neither has landed any clean shots thus far. Long moves in, Magalhaes attempts a takedown, and almost gets a leg-based submission during a scramble. Looked like a kneebar attempt from this angle. Grappling exchanges on the ground with Magalhaes still on top. Presses Long up against the cage and lands a few knees to his body as the first round expires.

Similar start to the second. Neither seems interested in fully engaging the other. Leg kick from Magalhaes lands but does little damage. Same with a follow-up body kick a few seconds later. Audience wants to see more action as evident by patches of booing. Men lock up against the cage with Magalhaes delivering a few knees while utilizing double-underhooks. Fairly uneventful round. Long almost certainly needs to finish Magalhaes in the third if he wants to walk away the winner.

More tentative stand-up to start things out. Long looks slightly more aggressive this round but isn’t fighting with urgency. “Draculino” goes for a takedown, drags Long down, and then gets his back. Round ends with Magalhaes likely taking home a unanimous decision win.

Winner – Vinicius “Draculino” Magalhaes via Unanimous Decision

Andre Galvao vs. Jorge Patino

A few “oohs” and “ahhs” from the crowd as the pyrotechnics flare up for both entrances. Galvao is HUGE for a welterweight. Actions starts slowly with Patino opening up and attempting a head-kick combination. Galvao locks his body up and starts working for a takedown against the cage. The Brazilian rains down a few punches, postures up, then goes back down and attempts to advance position. Galvao ends up getting Patino’s back who toys with the idea of standing up. He falls to the ground and tries to shake Galvao off (which he’s successful at). The two stand back up and throw a few strikes. Patino lands a big strike that drops Galvao. He does a little more damage but Galvao avoids the stoppage. He makes a few lazy attempts to grab Patino’s legs. The two stand back up and Galvao gets rocked again. Patino climbs back on top, but can’t finish things before the round ends. Galvao looks to be sucking major wind at the moment and we’re only five minutes in.

Second round starts with a 10-11 year old kid yelling “C’MON!!! GET IN THERE!!!” from behind me. Who ever said MMA wasn’t a family sport? The two lock up against the cage after some sloppy striking. Galvao gets Patino down to the ground and peppers his body with shots. Still working from the ground, gets Patino’s back, and sinks in the hooks. Patino shakes him off and they’re back on their feet. Galvao attempts a takedown and Patino succesfully sprawls. More wrestling on the ground for position with Galvao getting the better of his opponent. Galvao drops some bombs from half-guard as time expires.

Both men look a little winded as the third round opens up. Galvao lands a takedown and continues his ground-based assault on Patino. He eventually gains back control and throws a few solid punches from the side. Patino doesn’t seem to have an answer, making me wonder if he might have blown his load in the first frame after the knockdown(s). Referee decides to end the fight based on Patino not fighting back, though the chorus of boos from the audience (and confused look on Patino’s face) the official seems to be the only one who knows exactly why. Not intelligently defending perhaps?

Winner – Andre Galvao via TKO Round 3

Daniel Cormier vs. Jason Riley

Rashad Evans in Cormier’s corner. Cormier goes for an early takedown but doesn’t fully commit and ends up clinching with Riley. They separate. The AKA product lands a huge shot, gets on top, and pounds Riley out for the win a little over a minute into the fight.

Winner – Daniel Cormier via TKO Round 1

Chad Griggs vs. Bobby Lashley

Keeping my head on a swivel for this one just in case someone else from the media decides to try and take me out with a folding chair in honor of the Lashley.

The crowd absolutely LOVES Lashley. Huge ovation from fans as he’s announced. Griggs jabs but gets taken down immediately. Lashley works from the top, moving quickly into side control. He lands a few punches and continues trying to advance position. A fan yells out, “Get up, Chad!” as though he’s choosing to be under Lashley. Griggs eventually goes up and throws some shots. Lashley works another takedown. Griggs grabs the fence to stop it, gets warned, and ends up on his back during the exchange. Lashley back on top controlling things until Griggs makes his way back up to his feet. Lands a big knee to Lashley’s body and the two clinch against the fence. Action stalls and the ref separates them. Lashley successfully works ANOTHER takedown and lands some more punches from the top. Lashley appears to be cut and starts painting the canvas. Ric Flair would be proud!

Lashley starts out the second with a big slam and is back to working from the top. Crowd wants to see more action and voices their disapproval. Lashley gets into mount and starts pounding away on Griggs. Griggs tries to buck but has no luck. Eats some more damage but Lashley opts to lean on him occasionally rather than remain postured up. Ref stands them up and has the ringside doctor check on Lashley’s cut. For some reason they are NOT restarted in the same position. EDIT: Word is he stood them up for inactivity, not just to check the cut. The former pro wrestler looks exhausted at this point but still works a takedown as soon as things fire back up. Griggs sprawls, stuffs him, and lands a few shots as the round ends.

After the round, Lashley struggles to continue and the ref decides he’s had enough so the fight is called.

Winner – Chad Griggs via TKO Round 2

Jorge Gurgel vs. K.J. Noons

Noons moves forward but Gurgel backpedals his way too safety. Gurgel lands an overhead shot but Noons is unfazed. Gurgel attacks with a few punches and a headkick. To the surprise of many Gurgel actually appears to be winding the stand-up thus far even though Noons has landed a few shots as well. Gurgel is using his kicks well to maintain distance when he wants to, then moving forward with combos to keep Noons guessing. Gurgel moves in again and eats a left and right from Noons. Round ends with a flurry that sees Gurgel get dropped a few seconds after the bell has sounded.

Noons blasts Gurgel to start off the second round, then follows up with a few strikes AND a soccer kick to end things. Crowd is excited, yet confused. Now they’re upset after seeing a few replays. Lots of boos being thrown in the direction of the former EliteXC champ.

Winner – KJ Noons via KO Round 2

Tim Kennedy vs. Ronaldo “Jacare” Souza

Standing ovation for Kennedy during the introductions. Biggest reaction by far this evening. “USA” chants start up less than thirty seconds into the fight. “Jacare” lands a nice push-kick, then scores a few clean shots to Kennedy’s head. Kennedy resets and backs off a bit. Kennedy fires back a few punches of his own and lets Souza taste HIS power. The two continue to stand with each other. Kennedy rushes in. Souza trips against the cage when backing up. Fighters close out the round on their feet.

More stand-up throughout the first few minutes of the second. Kennedy leaps in and appears to get clipped. He works a takedown until “Jacare” attempts a guillotine, causing him to back out. Souza comes in and lands a few punches in the clinch but nothing substantial. Lots of patience here from both men so far. Souza tries a takedown but gives up after Kennedy fights it off. Frame ends with a few more striking exchanges.

More stand-up and very little ground-work from two men known for their grappling. Fighters clinch against the cage but separate shortly afterward. Action remains standing until Kennedy FINALLY scores a takedown. However, he is unable to break out of Souza’s guard, and “Jacare” scrambles out of the position within 30 seconds of being put on the mat. Ending of the third is similar to that of the first two rounds. Souza looks like the fresher fighter at this point. It also appears Kennedy has a cut over his left eye.

Fourth starts out as the other rounds have with both opting to stand rather than attempt to take things down to the ground. The fight is very evenly matched so far. Souza goes for a takedown but Kennedy sprawls and stuffs it. Kennedy lands an accidental shot to the Brazilian’s groin causing the referee to pause the action. The cut under Kennedy’s eye is looks bad, even from press row. Fight starts back up, and ends, with more of the same from earlier where striking is concerned.

Final round is here and there seems to be more of a sense of urgency from both men. Hard shots thrown by each but neither connects cleanly. Kennedy ducks under a punch and returns fire but misses. Kennedy tries a half-hearted takedown but backs off after “Jacare” takes a step backwards. Pace picks back up but still nothing speculator is landed. A little clinch-work takes place. Souza grabs Kennedy’s back after slipping a punch but the former Green Beret escapes. Kennedy’s face matches his red trunks at this point but he still closes out the bout with a nice slam. Should be interesting to see how the judges score things.

Winner – Ronaldo “Jacare” Souza via Unanimous Decision

Muhammed “King Mo” Lawal vs. Rafael “Feijao” Cavalcante

Big “King Mo” chant from the crowd to start things off. Lawal lands an early uppercut, then clinches “Feijao” and tries to take him down. He sacrifices the takedown attempt for his back, then scoops him up to deliver a beautiful slam. The two stand back up with Lawal kneeing Cavalcante’s thighs from behind. They separate and reset on their feet. They exchange feeler-jabs for a minute or so, then Lawal explodes for another takedown attempt but “Feijao” fends it off. Back to standing and “King Mo” ducks a punch, then showboats for a second. Round ends shortly thereafter.

Second frame opens up with more stand-up exchanges. Lawal lands a few nice shots but Cavalcante fires back with a knee. “Feijao” throws a punch with bad intent that barely misses Mo. Lawal ends up in the Brazilian’s guard after a quick scramble but Cavalcante gets to his feet easily. Lawal starts working on Cavalcante’s midsection with a series of body punches while mixing in an occasional head-shot. Lawal grabs Cavalcante and pushes him to the cage, attempting a takedown, but is unable to land it as the round expires.

Cavalcante lands a few solid shots at the start of the third and looks to have rattled Lawal. He lands a few more punches and sends Mo to the ground but the Strikeforce champ recovers and works a takedown. “Feijao” makes him pay for the position with a series of elbows to the head. The ref has seen enough and calls for the bell. Lawal loses for the first time and a second Brazilian champion emerges from this evening’s activities.

Winner – Rafael “Feijao” Cavalcante via TKO Round 3

58 COMMENTS
  • MickeyC says:

    I was surprised to see Dana did not schedule a show to combat this.

  • cocoonofhorror says:

    Magalhaes sucks. cant believe Long lost to him.

  • Dufresne says:

    Did they really just say that pro wrestling and MMA were basically the same thing?

  • Dufresne says:

    Wow, haven’t seen a fight stood up when someone was in full mount before.

  • Dufresne says:

    Griggs should have gotten the finish there. Lashley is done!!!!!

  • MCM says:

    Guess I was wrong, Lashley should be fighting cans…..cause he basically is one.
    Learn some BJJ man.

  • Dufresne says:

    Or cardio. Or standup. Or any of the “mixed” parts of MMA…

  • Dufresne says:

    Holy shit what a shot!!!!

  • Dufresne says:

    That shot after the bell was devastating!

  • Dufresne says:

    That was an illegal knee!!! WTF!!!

  • Dufresne says:

    Hahahaha! Even the announcers think these refs blow! At least they’ve gotten that right so far.

  • booboo2280 says:

    the gurgel v Noons fight is why StrikeForce is a Mickey Mouse organization. The after the bell KO. The Illegal Knee. jees could it get any worse??

  • Dufresne says:

    KJ Noons would get absolutely destroyed by Mayweather.

  • MCM says:

    Gurgel has all the potential to be a great fighter, why the hell won’t he learn to take someone down is beyond me, at that’s why all he’ll ever have is potential.

    and that knee was illegal but it wouldn’t have changed anything, the ref was stopping the fight anyway. Bad form, but….well it is KJ Noons.

  • Brendhan Conlan says:

    Keep in mind these aren’t Strikeforce’s referees. They’re assigned by the State of Texas.

  • Dufresne says:

    I personally think that fight should have been a NC. The most damaging shot was the punch after the bell at the end of the first. Two illegal shots like that should = NC when they so obviously contribute to the outcome of the fight.

  • Dufresne says:

    Jacare has landed some pretty good shots already. He’s looking good.

  • Dufresne says:

    Keep in mind these aren’t Strikeforce’s referees. They’re assigned by the State of Texas.

    That’s a good point. But it does go to show that there is still a large gap in the quality of refs, even within MMA. The best are recognized by every organization (Big John, Herb Dean) but then there are a bunch of refs that seem like they just don’t know what’s going on in MMA. If they’re going to be MMA refs, they should have to go to some sort of MMA ref schoo.

  • Dufresne says:

    *school*

    What a word to misspell…

  • Dufresne says:

    Why don’t they change the rules so that a cut that results in doctor stoppage goes to the score cards? Just because one guy lands a shot that results in a cut doesn’t mean he’s won the fight.

    This has nothing to do with this fight, I’m just thinking out loud.

  • MCM says:

    I scored that card 48-48. very unpredictable fight.

  • Dufresne says:

    Kinda surprised Jacare didn’t try to get this to the ground at all.

    Very close fight. It’ll probably go to Jacare since his standup looked a bit better and because Kennedy got cut.

  • MCM says:

    *scored that fight..

  • Makington says:

    I was the same mcm. I hate doing it, but they were near even in every round. I felt like 2 3 and 4 were very close to 10-10’s.

    Sometimes I wonder if judges even know they can score rounds as draws.

  • Dufresne says:

    Calvacante is looking pretty good. Good standup, good job stuffing takedowns, good job popping right back up from being taken down.

  • Dufresne says:

    I do believe the announcers just called Cavalcante “the darker skinned fighter.” Not only is that a bad way of describing a fighter, but they’re obviously more color blind than I am. Cavalcante is no where near as dark as Mo…

  • Dufresne says:

    I’ve got it going 2 rounds to Mo right now.

    Those body shots look painful.

  • MCM says:

    I think they meant “trunks” fighter

  • Dufresne says:

    Damn Calvacante is teeing off!!!!

  • Dufresne says:

    Mo has a chin of granite, those shots should have put anyone asleep!

  • Dufresne says:

    Good call Big John. I can’t believe Mo took the damage that he did there. Even more impressive is the fact that he almost came back from those shots with some brutal uppercuts.
    Impressive showing by Cavalcante.

  • MCM says:

    Great Finish!
    I hope Carwin was watching this, that’s how you take out a wrestler after rocking him.

    Good night of fights for the BJJ black belts……..cept for you Gurgel, not you.

  • MCM says:

    Excellent English BTW. 😉

  • Dufresne says:

    Other than Noons getting away with 2 illegal shots that were huge in his win and the announcers irritating me as usual, this wasn’t a bad card.

    Lashley got exposed by Griggs which isn’t too surprising, but I was happy for Griggs here. Jacare surprised me by not going for very many takedowns, but he still managed to pull the UD. King Mo looked pretty good for a guy with only 7 fights before this one, but he got blasted by a heavy handed fighter. And even in defeat I was impressed with Mo’s chin.

  • Makington says:

    I think it’s time we end post fight interviews with the losing fighter altogether. I mean, Kennedy and Lawal both just trained their asses off thinking about nothing but the fight for a long time. Going that far to lose the fight it’s impossible to ever have a good interview. The guy is pissed at himself, has his adrenaline spiked through the roof, is disappointed, and it’s just not the right time to ask a guy questions like, ‘How do you feel right now?’

    Or when Gus grinds the salt a little deeper when he gives King Mo an adamant congratulations in the fight that he just got knocked out in.

  • Dufresne says:

    And the play-by-play posting was awesome. I hate not being able to see the undercard, but having someone there letting us know what’s going on is about the closest thing to being able to see it ourselves. Thanks Bendhan :)

  • MCM says:

    Good point Makington. I personally like to hear from the loser to see how they handle getting beat but 9 time out of 10 these guys are just parroting words they think they’re supposed to say. It is kinda disrespectful.

  • Brendhan Conlan says:

    All class from Gurgel at the press conference. More details when I have a chance to write things up.

  • Richard Stabone says:

    I was expecting Tim to come out victorious but he played it a *little* too safe. The takedown was no threat and if he had the fight to do over again he could’ve taken more chances and done a little more to come out on top. Nice fight though; I agree with the decision.

    Lashley is a scrub. Think we all *thought* that but were waiting to be proved right or wrong.

    The Noons-Gurgel fight was unfortunate. Jorge seemed to have a slight edge in the 1st round until getting rocked after the bell. That was the fight right there. Decided after the bell. Bleh.

    The boxing-MMA thing is getting really, really old. Randy should control old man Toney next weekend and give MMA a leg up, but really this is all just stupid. They’re just different sports altogether. I prefer MMA for its more dynamic style, but have always enjoyed boxing as well (less & less in recent years). But anyway, if I wasn’t convinced already that the MMA vs. boxing schtick was completely bogus, KJ f’ing Noons talking about PBF just slammed it home. Seriously? It’s not even worth saying any more about it.

  • MMA-LOGIC says:

    The illegal, half hearted knee impacted his arm and did little damage to Gurgel who was done anyway. The blow “after the bell” (i think the punch was initiated as the bell sounded) was not late enough to deserve a point deduction but perhaps a caution. Besides defend yourself at all times is a golden rule. Mo looked good but not good enough and Jacare is top 5 for sure in my books. A BJJ master with explosive take downs who can bang a bit = trouble for anyone.
    The next fight I would like to see are Mousasi vs Feigao, Noons vs Aoki for a title shot, Souza vs Hendo while they wait for a winner in a MW tournament, this would be a huge test for Souza and solidify his top 5 status.

  • Richard Stabone says:

    Defend yourself at all times… well, yeah. But the shot landed *after the bell*.

    Name another sport where a score/goal comes after the horn and it’d be considered legit. Guess the other team should’ve played better defense. Right.

  • Makington says:

    If the shot hadn’t hurt Gurgel then I thought it would have been fair play. You could see Noons waiting under Gurgel to come up with the big counter hook for a good second before he did it, but the shot did technically land after the bell. Since it was so close I would have warned him but the shot nearly ended the fight after the bell had sounded. I don’t think Jorge would have started the second round hurt and the combo that quickly put him away wouldn’t have. The knee didn’t look clean or damaging but was another sloppy move by KJ and another reason why I was almost expecting a dq or no contest call.

    Overall a good solid fight for KJ. I don’t fancy his chances against Melendez but Melendez has looked unstoppable lately. He really shows how well a legit boxing background can be implemented into mma. I hope he wasn’t serious about Mayweather though. I would pay double to see Mayweather get his ass beat but KJ doesn’t have nearly the speed he would need.

  • MMA-LOGIC says:

    Lashley lost. So now he is just a joke?. Look at who Dos Santos has lost to or some of the guys Dan Hardy lost to. Perhaps you have heard of Mikhail Illoukhine the guy Randy Couture lost to to make his stats 4-2.
    I love the way poor reffing dec are blamed on SF but never on the UFC. It has nothing to do with either org.
    I think that a cut caused by a illegal blow should result in a NC ( ie Couture’s head butt to break Gonzaga’s nose should have been NC and Fedor vs TK should have been also) but a cut caused by a good shot is what it is just like a KO caused by a good shot is what it is Dufresne.

  • MMA-LOGIC says:

    In boxing and combat sports a blow KOs you or does damage so it counts regardless of whether it was after the bell right? in soccer and whatever they just say sorry but that doesn’t count right? Maybe it was a foul but can the damage be undone? no it can’t so you must be wary otherwise….

  • Richard Stabone says:

    Of course the damaging blow after the bell “counted” against Gurgel. In the same fashtion that multiple knees to the groin can “count” all the same, despite the warning they’ll draw.

    In either case, if it has a direct impact on the outcome of the fight I think that completely & entirely sucks. Just my own radical opinion.

  • MMA-LOGIC says:

    Just to expand on my point. OK lets say it was a foul shot t o Gurgel, he takes a point away and warns him, next rd Gurgel is dazed and loses anyway. The ref did the right thing by deducting a point etc but the blow after the bell still did the damage, So it is Gurgel’s responsibility to defend himself at ALL times. If the bow had stopped the fight straight away and was deemed to be a foul then a NC or DQ is warranted but that did not happen.

  • MMA-LOGIC says:

    Fair play.

  • MMA-LOGIC says:

    I mean fair play to you Stabone not… you know what I mean.

  • Richard Stabone says:

    I’m not blaming Noons. I’m not blaming the ref. All I’m saying is it was frustrating & unfortunate that a blow that landed after the bell had a huge impact on the outcome of that fight. (In my opinion it all but ended it, as it was almost comical listening to Gurgel’s corner explain to him he’d just be KO’d and he needed to snap out of it to answer the 2nd round bell.)

    That’s all.

    Sometimes illegal strikes have a direct impact on fights. Kevin Burns vs. Anthony Johnson comes to mind. Sucks when it happens.

  • MMA-LOGIC says:

    “Kevin Burns vs. Anthony Johnson comes to mind. Sucks when it happens.”

    Yeah if ever there should have been a DQ for fouls that was it. I think he had to go under the knife as a result. didn’t he?. That was the eye poking wasn’t it?.

  • Richard Stabone says:

    Yeah, Burns inadvertantly caught him with a nasty poke (the excuse/explanation being he was fighting with a broken hand I believe, and had difficulty making a closed fist).

    Anyway, the point is there are all kinds of MMA bouts where a blow lands to the groin, or the eye, or the back of the head, or moments after the bell…. and regardless of the intent it just sucks when it happens.

    If you go back and read my original post under this topic, I simply stated it was unfortunate for the Noons-Gurgel fight to play out the way it did. I’m not on here hating against Noons; if that were the case I’d have brought up his blatantly intentional illegal knee to a grounded opponent. I’m not worried about that because the fight was already over before that happened, thanks in very large part to the shot after the 1st round bell.

    And Noons even mentioning PBF’s name was just silly, although maybe that was more on Gus Johnson for bringing it up in the post-fight interview? Either way, it’d be like the 184th rank boxer bringing up GSP as a potential opponent for an MMA bout because the boxer had a high school wrestling background. Just dumb. Believe me, I prefer MMA over boxing but Noons & Floyd in the same sentence is a joke.

  • Richard Stabone says:

    Actually, now that I think about it, one more mini-rant before I call it a night…

    So after the controversial/disappointing Noons-Gurgel fight, Gus Johnson gets in there with a mic in front of Noons’ face and instead of asking for Noons’ thoughts on the crucial shot that landed at the end of/after the 1st round, or his reaction to the refs reluctancy to stop the fight in the 2nd when Noons clearly thought it was over…. INSTEAD he brings up Floyd Mayweather. Oy.

    I’m usually one of the few guys sticking up for Gus. He tends to be a bit exaggerated & obnoxious but I’ve always liked the energy & excitement he brings to a fight (or college basketball game). Granted, it’s a bit cheesy but IMO he pulls it off in a way that feels pretty genuine. But tonight…. yeesh, talk about missing the mark.

  • Mad_Hatter_XX says:

    Anyone else find it funny/ironic Lashley got beat by someone who looked like Honky Tonk Man?

    If some unknown guy was able to TKO Lashley just imagine what would happen if he fought a HW with any skills.

    The ref in the Noons fight should be fined or fired. Too much stuff going on after bell or when someone was clearly down. Not sure it would have made a difference in overall outcome but, can’t have that stuff going on. With under 10 sec left in round the ref should be right on top of the fighters ready to step in when round ends, not be half way across the octagon.

    Really good middleweight fight. I could see the fight going either way. Tim Kennedy will be lucky if he can see clearly out of that eye anytime soon.

    King Mo needs to realize he isn’t Floyd Mayweather and he can’t get away with being all cocky in his stand up like Mayweather. King Mo will be back because he is clearly talented he just needs to tweak his stand up game and stop trying to be all cocky and slick and use his strikes to set up takedowns better in the future.

  • BigDave says:

    Well I wish I had anything good to say about this card but I can’t find anything. The noons fight should have been a no contest because gurgel was in no shape to fight after getting ko’d after the bell. Lashley proved what I have said from the start, he is not very skilled in any aspect of mma and just being a solid wrestler isn’t gonna cut it. The fact that he quit because he gassed and had a cut under the eye just shows me the guy has no will or heart to fight from adversaty, back to wwe with you bobby. King Mo got beat by a guy that is at best a mid tier fighter. He looked small and out matched from the word go, he has got potential and think he will bounce back but he needs to advance in his ground game and learn some submissions, oh and drop the fuckin stupid ring entrances it only make you look like a loser. To add to this horrible card was the commentary. Gus interviews after the fight where annoying at best, mauro is a douchebag thats voice just gets on my last nerve and metal mouth shamrock, did anyone ever tell him braces aren’t supposed to be permanent.

    Thank god this wasn’t a ppv cause if it was there would be alot of ppl asking for there money back.

  • Dufresne says:

    I think that a cut caused by a illegal blow should result in a NC ( ie Couture’s head butt to break Gonzaga’s nose should have been NC and Fedor vs TK should have been also) but a cut caused by a good shot is what it is just like a KO caused by a good shot is what it is Dufresne.

    I agree that a cut caused by an illegal shot should be a NC, but I still think a cut resulting from a legal blow should go to the scorecards. I just don’t think it’s fair that a guy could dominate 14:30 of a 15 min fight, get grazed by an elbow above the eye, and lose.

    he noons fight should have been a no contest because gurgel was in no shape to fight after getting ko’d after the bell.

    That’s one of the things that bothered me the most about that fight. If that shot had landed inside the time limits, it would have been a KO for Noons because Gurgel wasn’t capable of continuing. But it didn’t land before the bell. No matter how close it was, that shot was clearly after the round ended, and therefore an illegal blow. It was also damaging enough that Gurgel should not have been allowed to continue and the fight should have been a DQ, NC, or even have gone to the judges a la Cowboy/Varner.

  • Rece Rock says:

    Fantastic officiating…

    Fantastic commentary from the showtime guys…

    Only thing I missed was some zuffa counter programming…;)

  • JBAR says:

    Gurgel should have been given 5 minutes to gather himself before the fighters were allowed to go to their corners just like if it was a groin shot. Not a cheap shot by Noons but was after the bell. I don’t see that the knee did anything to change the outcome and I can’t tell for sure even in slow motion if it impacted his head. If it had landed flush then Noons would have probably been DQ’d, well if there was a decent ref in there he would have been but who knows with the one they had. Actually if there was a good ref in there it would not have made it that far.

  • Rece Rock says:

    I haven’t see anybody say anything about the countless shots to the back of the head Lashely took with no warning from the ref either… If I was Lashley I wouldn’t be hanging my head low, between the bullshit stand-up / restart standing when he was in a mount and the illegal blows I’d have something to say about the ref if I was him… I’m not a fan of Lashey’s but I feel for the guy because the ref def. effected the coarse of that fight win, lose, or draw the ref had an effect on Bobby’s fate.

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