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Shane Carwin named in federal steroids distribution case

Highly-touted UFC heavyweight contender Shane Carwin was named Friday alongside six other athletes in federal court as a group of twenty-two individuals who obtained performance enhancing drugs from Applied Pharmacy Services, an Alabama enterprise associated with the illegal distribution of anabolic steroids around the nation.

Carwin’s association with the operation was reported by a local Alabama online news outlet. The 12-1 Mixed Martial Artist was named in court documents as having received steroids at some point between April 2004 and August 2006 according to order-forms initialed by one of the recently-sentenced doctors linked to APS.

The 6’4″ power-packing knockout-specialist made his professional MMA debut in October 2005 and participated in a total of five fights during the span in question. No official comment has been released from Carwin’s camp in regards to his alleged involvement in the case.

  • Dufresne says:

    I hope to hell there is some sort of mistake here.

    Carwin has such a good rep and seems like such a legit, nice guy I just don’t want to think that he was ever involved in something like this.

    If he did use PEDs, the only real solace is that the investigation was almost 2 years before he signed with the UFC and that he has tested clean in every drug test so far.

  • twyg says:

    This really sucks if the alligations are true. He hasn’t been convicted of anything yet, or for that matter indited(?). If an inditment does come down it will be interesting to see what the UFC does. Do they back there guy or cut ties to send a message? Brock winning now looks like a god send for Dana and company. I would have to think the last thing Dana wants is this kind of bad press, and has already talked with Shane and his people. If this goes any further a suspention is in order, and I wouldn’t be surprised to see him cut. The question then becomes where does Shane go? Would SF or anyone outside of Japan sign this guy with this kind of baggage? An inditment could mean the end of his career in the states. This is the kind of publicity the sport really could do without. I can only imagine how guys like Tony Kornhieser and the old sports writers will use something like this to discredit the sport as a whole. Nevermind boxing is plagued by problems, but Shane could have set a lot of progress back as far as MMA going more mainstream. Hopefully nothing comes of this.

  • danw84 says:

    twyg you talk like no one has ever popped on steroids in the ufc. several current fighters have failed drug tests, something shane has never done.

  • Lord Faust says:

    I’d like to see some more specifics on this story. While I’m far from a Carwin apologist, there is a chance that whatever he got from this company may have had some legitimate medical uses. Maybe I’m oversimplifying, but the difference between “steroids” and “performance enhancing drugs” seems to be, largely, confined to their usage.

  • Niv says:

    Am I shocked that he may have done steroids, or maybe still does, no. However I’m nearly heartbroken about it because he was one of the few mma fighters out there that seemed to be a genuine gentleman.

    The harm he stated others brought to the sport with their attitude and classless behaviour is unfortunately nothing compared to this if he’s guilty.

    I wish him luck and hope it’s a mistake in the end, if not my opinion of him will change dramatically.

  • twyg says:

    Dawn84 I know that others have failed tests, and probably will in the future. I also know that Shane has never tested positive. The part that is concerning is the fact that the feds are involved. With all likelyhood Shane might have to testify to a grand jury about his involvement. If that becomes the case he better not lie, these are not athletic directors that can suspend you like everyone else who has been caught due to a positive test, they can throw your ass into a federal prison. That is what makes this differant then failing a drug test. Case in point is Marion Jones. She never failed a test either, and look what happened when the feds got involved. She wound up in prison. Shane should get a lawyer, and if he is asked to testify be completely honest about everything.

  • cocoonofhorror says:

    Son, i am disappoint.

    ~R. Huerta

  • Rece Rock says:

    He may take a hit in his reputation but in the end they guy hasn’t tested positive and obviously he now knows eyes will be on him… I think the only repercussions he faces is fallout from fans and future opponents have some material to talk shit to him about… I’m not a fan of carwin, but he seems like a decent individual… I thought his comments about huerta were a bit much… Guess he should keep his thoughts about others Actions to himself going forward…

  • MCM says:

    Sounds to me like the Feds went after Applied Pharmacy Services not the individuals involved. It is much harder to prove that all 22 people named knew they were receiving illegal anabolic steroids than it is to prove that Applied Pharmacy distributed them. As far as I’ve read, prosecutors have made no attempt to prosecute any of the 22 recipients on the list which also include WWE star Kurt Angle.

  • sensiman says:

    I was upset when I first read the title but then I actually read the article and saw that his involvement was between April 2004 and August 2006. Carwin Made his UFC debut in 2008 and ever since he has been in the UFC he has tested clean.
    Im sure there are plenty of UFC fighters who have taken Steriods in the PAST. I really dont have any proof so I cant say for sure but I would have bet my house that Brock Lesnar was stacking roids when he made his WWF debut. Who Cares………

  • BigDave says:

    i see alot of people saying “i’m shocked, he seems like such a genuine nice guy.”. What the hell does that have to do with him using steroids. Nice guys take drugs to. Has he used steroids?..ya probably but so have a lot of fighters, the only thing i worry about is has he tested clean for all his fight and so far yes he has. if they indite him so be it, its not like he will be a title contender anytime soon anyway. If he ever does pop positive he can always go to japan and fight like barnett does and make tons of cash. I don’t like or dislike Carwin but if it comes out that he is roiding then he will be gone soon enough.

  • BigDave says:

    oh I will break this story here first.

    Ontario has legalized mma to start jan 1 2011. look out for ufc in toronto by march at the latest. this is the greatest day in mma history as toronto is the largest mma fan base in the world by far.

  • moosebaby02 says:

    fucking right Dave if its true

  • Makington says:

    It is true moose, I already crapped myself twice today already. I live 30 minutes outside of Toronto and just don’t have the money to take a trip all the way to somewhere in the states for an event.

    Rumour also is that the GSP/Kos fight might be pushed back a bit to coincide with it. Their fight timeline was about as early as December and as late as March and even though I’m going to try as hard as I can to go no matter who headlines, having GSP there will guarantee one of the biggest events Dana has ever seen. Plus it will mean like 3 times as many ladies in the crowd 😉

  • Makington says:

    Lol I forgot this article was about Carwin, I get sidetracked too easily. It’s never nice to see a fighter who you respect a lot get exposed in a way like this so I’ll reserve judgement. I’ll give Carwin the benefit of the doubt and he does seem like an honest fella so I’ll see his side of the story before I think anything negative about him. Even then I’ll still be a fan though. Some of the best people I have ever met were huge potheads, so at the worst making some mistakes when you were younger isn’t a huge issue in my books as long as he’s clean now.


  • danw84 says:

    Dude there’s no way they’re gonna back up an already delayed (because of the show) fight that much further. If they wait until March for the fight, GSP won’t have fought in a YEAR. That’s about the time frame people start wanting interim belts.

    Also, not that I’m disagreeing, but where do you get the idea that Toronto has the largest MMA fan base in the world by far?

  • danw84 says:

    Because I see PLENTY of affliction or tapout shirt wearing, full sleeve tattoo having douche fags all over Vancouver. If Toronto is worse than here… I’m sorry.

  • elkymbo says:

    Good point about him keeping his mouth shut about other people’s actions. I’ve always considered him a bit high and mighty. Just goes to show he’s human after all.

  • Dufresne says:

    Tim Sylvia just KO’d Paul in a big way! I haven’t seen Paul go down like that since AA!

  • Niv says:

    danw84 “Because I see PLENTY of affliction or tapout shirt wearing, full sleeve tattoo having douche fags all over Vancouver. If Toronto is worse than here… I’m sorry.”

    Lol, I’m from Vancouver as well, and I have to say I’m getting tired of all the posers walking around with their tough guy t’s, but I guess it’s a good sign for the sport.

  • crane_style says:

    It was Dana himself that said Toronto is their biggest fan base. TO has the highest per capita UFC PPV buys in the world. He’ll be drooling because he knows he can put 30,000+ into the Skydome for a good card.

    I’m from Toronto and live in Europe now, but could see timing visits home to coincide with events!

  • Madmax says:

    Indictment——————sorry to hear this, and i hope it’s a mistake and that SC is not indicted on federal charges.Damn Shame.


  • Dufresne says:

    Even if he’s indicted, so what? An indictment is just the governments way of saying “we think you screwed up, and so do the 20 people we asked.” They indict tons of people each year, but that doesn’t mean that they all end up in jail, or even get convicted of anything.

    Carwin has never tested positive for PEDs, and he’s been tested several times by the UFC. It also seems almost impossible to pin illegal steroid use on an athlete. Look at baseball, everyone knows Barry Bonds has been roiding for years, but not even the Feds can get anything to stick. Unless there’s some seriously damming evidence in there or unless he comes straight out and admits to it, he’s probably just gonna end up with a lot of hassle and legal fees.

  • BigDave says:

    Canada is easily the top ppv buyer per capita in the word toronto being the bulk of it. the shows at the bell center in montreal are the quickest cell outs for a mma event ever. and with over 50k in the skydome come early next year it will be the largest crowd to ever watch a live mma event.

    So again Canada is the true home of mma.

  • MickeyC says:

    Are we talking needle in the ass cheek, hardcore seriod pills or just performance inhansers? I have never agreed with being busted for using stuff that can be obtained from GNC.

  • kentuckyfightfan says:

    Marion Jones was on the hook for way more than just taking PED’s… She was guilty of lying about her boyfriend’s thievery. So Marion and Carwin can’t be compared. Have any baseball players served time for PED’s? Nope! It’s a bad deal if he did take them, but only thing we know for sure is that he hasn’t failed a test since being in the UFC. Come to think of it, when Brock is asked about PED’s, his answer is always, “I’ve never failed a test.” Sound familiar?

  • bigbadjohn says:

    When a 265 lb man in the UFC with all of his wins from brutal KOs in the first round’s name comes up on a list with Hardcore Holly, Kurt Angle, bodybuilders and of course baseball players, its kinda hard to be surprised. um, ya… hard to give the benefit of the doubt for me

  • bigbadjohn says:

    Oh and Vancouver has soo so many tapout/affliction-wearing goofs. I feel embarrassed even considering wearing a MMA shirt around because of these guys

  • AR15 says:

    “So again Canada is the true home of mma.”

    ummmmm…no. Just because you have a lot ot PPV sales outta Canada, does not make Canada the “home” of mma. Its just means you’ve got a lot of spectaters there. If anything it would be a toss up between Japan & The States for being the “home of mma”

    Nothing against Canada or Canadians at all…i just think they’re getting way too much credit for the growth of mma. Plain & simple

  • Rece Rock says:

    In unrelated UFC HW news….
    Big nog is out and cro cop is in against Mir…this suxxxx

  • Dufresne says:

    If anything it would be a toss up between Japan & The States for being the “home of mma”

    I would say the home would probably be Brazil actually. They were the first ones in modern times to hold MMA style events with Vale Tudo being popular at the turn of the century.

    But the original home of MMA would have to be ancient Greece with Pancreas 😀

  • Dufresne says:

    Crap, that’s supposed to be Pancrase not Pancreas…

    I don’t think the Greeks were responsible for any glandular organ development in the ancient world…

  • MMA-LOGIC says:

    I TOLD YOU SO!!!!!!. If we new all of the MMA practitioners that do it or have done it it would be most if not nearly all. Here is a list of athletes in MMA that have been done or failed a test.
    Gracie (Royce)
    Big Foot
    Shamrock (Ken)
    …and many more. These are a few that have been caught. There are many many more that havn’t been. I base this on athletes that have “come clean” about steroid use in their sports. Many athletes coaches and doctors have come forward and said a lot or most top athletes do it. Also Monson has come forward and said he did. Monson was never caught.

  • MMA-LOGIC says:

    You never know Dufresne the Greeks were pretty smart. I think the Romans came up with the basic outline for the large intestine though.

  • MMA-LOGIC says:

    By the way of the 15 or so that I’ve named 13 have fought in the UFC. So sensiman and co don’t think for a moment that todays UFC fighters are all clean. I think it is the very small minority of fighters that are using that get caught, most don’t and that is why they do it in the first place. They think they can get away with it and have knowledge or evidence to back that idea up. If all users got caught no one would do it. Think about it, would you take drugs if the odds were against you getting away with it?. They take them expecting to get away with it and most do.

  • MMA-LOGIC says:

    Quad post on your ass.

  • LiverPunch says:

    “So again Canada is the true home of mma.”

    MMA does not stand for Mounties, Maple syrup and anti-Americanism.

  • Dufresne says:

    and with over 50k in the skydome come early next year it will be the largest crowd to ever watch a live mma event.

    Except for the 67k+ that were at PRIDE: Final Conflict 2003

    Just poking at you BigDave :)

  • danw84 says:

    “MMA does not stand for Mounties, Maple syrup and anti-Americanism.”

    What a horribly worthless post.

  • danw84 says:

    But I guess anti-Canadianism is to be expected from someone with the brains to make that post.

  • elkymbo says:

    You gotta relax buddy.

  • Rece Rock says:

    I been to Canada I think it’s a great place and great ppl… But whenever Canada comes up in a convo I can’t help but think of Scott Steiner cutting a promo…”you’re from that stinking country you call Canada. So watch, I think it’s your time, to go back up, to that cesspool, that place we call MEXICO NORTH. And I apologize to all the Mexicans out there.”- Scott Steiner

    I’m sorry but that’s funn shit.

  • bigbadjohn says:

    MMA merchandising and UFC ppv sales are the highest per capita in Canada worldwide. thats a pretty good indicator that the Great North is the stronghold of MMA fans. Of course with the US having ten times the population the fan numbers are higher but so are the number of ppl who view the sport as human cockfighting. all of it aside Im happy to have the p4p champ of the world come from canadian lands!

  • twyg says:

    Since when did Anderson Silva become a Canadian. He won legitly, and finished on top of it, which is more then I can say about your boyfriend GSP. When was the last time he finished someone; oh wait it was when he fought a blowen up B.J. Penn. Sorry but the p4p best is still The Spider.

  • bigbadjohn says:

    When was the last time GSP got beat in a round? The GSP Silva p4p debate was a close one BEFORE Anderson met Chael. Now weve all seen Silva get owned for 4 rounds, arguably in all facets of the fight as well. And as far as finishing fights, .. really twyg? Leites, Maia.. atleast my boy Georges works for a stoppage in dominating fashion fight in and fight out

  • LiverPunch says:

    You could take it seriously if you want dawn. Gez..
    I gather you are from Canada … and sensitive.
    I apologize to the nation of Canada and the 2 Canadians that don’t try and take the piss out of Americans at every turn. I don’t know what I was thinking aboot.

  • twyg says:

    Sorry bigbadjohn, but all that matters is winning, and after that finishing. Anderson has finished two of his last three if I’m not mistaken (Forrest and Chael), while it is one of the last three for GSP. There is also that little bit about Silva winning fights in two weight classes, and being undefeated in the UFC. Losing rounds doesn’t really matter; all that matters is whose hand is raised at the end of the bout. As far as I know Anderson also holds the longest win streak, which means the last one to lose was your boy GSP. I have been as critical as anyone when the discussion is Silvas in cage antics, but the fact remains that until he loses he is still the p4p best. I know that hurts all you people from the 51st state.

  • JBAR says:

    P4P is pretty much a pointless argument but between GSP and Silva to me it is a toss up. GSP got caught once and got KO’d and lost but came back and totally dominated Serra pretty much showing it was a fluke deal. Silva on the other hand was dominated for 4+ rounds and probably should have lost but he showed true heart and was able to secure the submission win that some called a lucky win. So you have an unlucky loss vs a lucky win, take you pick, there is no wrong choice.

  • Creature says:

    Im from the U.S. and id say GSP is the best p4p fighter, i dont believe its just that u win its how u win.. GSP hasnt lost a round since the koscheck fight, he has completely destroyed everyone.. silva just got his face beat in for 4 rounds before capitalizing on weak sub defense. p4p best isnt someone who gets beat in every area for 4 and a half rounds, its someone who does the beating.

    thats just my oppinion anyway


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