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Anderson Silva defends title in controversial sleeper against Demian Maia at UFC 112

In what could easily be considered a strong front runner in the “Worst Fight of the Year” department, UFC middleweight title holder Anderson “The Spider” Silva managed to do just enough to escape an extremely lackluster bout against submission specialist Demian Maia with his championship intact.

The  terrible excuse for a title fight took place during UFC 112 from the Concert Arena on Yas Island in Abu Dhabi, United Arab Emirates.

Things didn’t start out as hard to watch as they ended up, as Silva came into the fight looking ultra-confident while appearing to be toying with his prey for the first couple of rounds. However, there was no point in the bout where the defending champion seemed concerned with actually putting and end to the decorated Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu black belt.

The final two rounds saw Maia chasing Silva around the Octagon in a puzzling affair that had mixed martial arts fans in Abu Dhabi and worldwide banging their heads against the wall in utter frustration.

It truly appeared like Silva was consciously attempting to insure that he made it to a full five round decision victory. The reasoning behind NOT wanting to win via any other way outside of a decision in a bout most would bet to finish early seems questionable at best.

When it was all said and done, it was Silva retaining his title. Suspiciously, no scoring of the bout was read with the original ruling.

“Demian actually surprised me with some of his punches,” said Silva following the bout via his interpreter Ed Soares.

“I’m sorry. I don’t know what got into me.”

The victory was the sixth defense of the UFC middleweight championship for Silva, and the third fight many would describe as “hard to watch” in his last four.

Maia has now lost two of his previous three after going on a five-fight run with the UFC.

89 COMMENTS
  • Rich S. says:

    I’m starting to take his antics as a sign of disrespect.

    If he’s so bored with MMA, he needs to just leave.. I certainly won’t miss him if it’s going to keep me from seeing these annoying showcases.. Go ahead, give boxing a try.. He’ll never win a serious boxing bout.

    It’s such a shame that one of the best fighters this planet has ever seen, if not THE best, is just waisting his and our time with these fights.. Seriously, this guy could end EVERY fight by KO in the 1st round if he wanted to, but for some weird reason, he doesn’t want to..

  • Dufresne says:

    There was nothing really controversial about the bout. Silva clearly won and it was clearly a boring fight. I was loving the first 2 rounds as it looked like he was playing with Maia and was looking to seal the deal soon, but then he just seemed to stop partway through the third. After that I was actually starting to pull for Maia.

    The thing that posses me off the most is that he’s done this now with two bjj experts now, but this time it was even worse. Against Leites some of the blame could be blamed on Leites and his lack of willingness to engage. Maia on the other hand was attempting takedowns, throwing punches, and throwing kicks while Anderson just seemed to run about.

  • qat says:

    disrespectful & disgraceful
    but why?
    i just cant understand it

  • Mulletsoldier says:

    Now, Cory, THIS is a terrible title fight with which you should take issue, and on which you should write a 2,000 word missive/rant expressing your displeasure. What I find very fitting is that after your “GSP rant,” I reminded you of Anderson’s performances at UFC 90 and 97 to hopefully bring some context to your incredibly short perspective. I have a feeling, however, given your bias toward Silva, you won’t be as incensed and battle-ready after you were the GSP fight. Pathetic.

  • Mulletsoldier says:

    And in a very, very ironic fashion Cory: THIS is what a champion failing to finish a fight looks like.

  • JOEgun says:

    seriously, WHAT THE HELL, ANDERSON!!!? whats going on man!? jesus! Dont give us this ‘maia had some good punches that threw me off my game’ or ‘i dont know what got into me”. Bullshit! I dont believe it. I dont know what to say about that. im speachless. disappointing…

  • Brendhan Conlan says:

    Sorry, but I also think the UFC shares some blame in this situation (which I’ll elaborate on in this week’s GWI – CHEAP PLUG!!!). Maia was yet ANOTHER opponent they lined up for Silva who didn’t actually deserve the title shot to begin with. I can’t be mad at Silva for not wanting to take unnecessary risks in order to please the viewers when his competition can’t press the issue himself.

  • twyg says:

    I said it in an earlier post; I would like to know how that fight was scored. Yes Silva clearly wins rounds one and two. Round four goes to Maia and a very good case can be made that he also took round five. Round three is the fight up in my opinion. Also want to give some dap to Dan Margleata (I know I fucked that one up) for threating to take a point. Why Does Silva always want fighters to come to him? He is never the lead puncher he always counter attacks. I wish Maia would have pulled that same bullshit in the later rounds that Silva was doing earlier. Silva didn’t attack here or in his last title defense; which was also put me to sleep. At least when Fedor fights guys that should not be in the same cage as him Fedor finishes them off.

  • blue says:

    I am so disgusted with Silva at this point and how disrespectful his behavior is towards his opponents. The truth of the matter is Anderson is not being challenged. In Anderson’s defense, he has acknowledged the fact and has been very public about wanting to take some fights at heavyweight.

    If this is the product we get when watching Anderson fight at MW and LHW, than I say put the MW belt on ice for a year (until a challenger emerges) and let him fight at HW.

  • MCCastaneda says:

    I am with Brendhan on this one.
    While I would have like to see Silva finish Maia, it was very clear, very early, that Maia did not belong in the cage with Silva.

    While some are saying that Silva’s antics may be disrespectful, I beleive that the UFC disrespected the Champ. A fighter that is arguablity the best P4P fighter should be give fights that are not close to a waste of of time.

    The UFC’s damage control to find a replacement for Vitor is the main reason this main event was lack luster!! There were other options for a Silva match. The best would have been a fight at 205. A victory at 205 could have solidified a 205 for Silva and Shogun (provide Rua beats Machida). This scenario would have still made UFC 112 a great card on paper as it still would have a title fight & a legends fight, and included Anderson attempting to establish himself as the best P4P.

    In the end the UFC takes most of the blame in my book.

  • Milliniar says:

    this fight was a joke. and i don’t think it would’ve been a “risk” for Silva to have actually put together striking combos or go in for clinch/thai plum and end the fight. the few times maia went down would’ve been a risk to attack then. and rounds 4 and 5 especially. the biggest joke and only controversy was not reading the score cards though no doubt silva won 3 rounds.

  • adamsfamily says:

    I think Anderson is unable to pull the trigger on a fellow brazillian. Rich Franklin was butchered twice with bad intention even though Anderson went on record how much he ‘respected’ him. Maybe he is bored?
    This performance shows no respect to his opponent. I hate to say it – but I actually hope Cheal Sonnen beats him up if the fight ever happens.

  • Rich S. says:

    If Anderson wants to start fighting at Heavyweight, or even Welterweight, he needs to just vacate the title and do so.. Don’t wait until you lose at Middleweight and lose all credibility before moving down or up..

  • s00nertp says:

    Just another reason Fedor is the best HW MMA fighter ever, and the best PFP we’ve ever seen.

    When looking at the rankings of all the fighters the PFP best fighters have fought, and their record, their consistency, and the entertainment of the fights… is anyone really even close?

    Fedor has never lost. He is a WRESTLER who has has beautiful knockouts with strikers. He has fought 7 fighters with title belts in their respective divisions. He has beaten the best HW fighters in their primes (Big Nog, cro-cop, Schiltz, maybe Mark Coleman / Randleman, Mark Hunt (7W2L at time with wins over Wanderlei and Cro-Cop), and Brett Rogers).

  • crane_style says:

    I think Silva is more afraid of losing than he wants to win.

    Look at his strategy. He hammered on Maia’s front leg and totally took away his movement, and then constantly circled just out of range.

    Bad enough that he’s trying to win a fight by not fighting, but then Silva taunts him, as if it’s Maia’s fault they aren’t mixing it up.

    I have lost all respect for this guy. He may be the most talented fighter in the world, but there is no way he’s the best.

  • crane_style says:

    Just another reason Fedor is the best HW MMA fighter ever, and the best PFP we’ve ever seen.
    When looking at the rankings of all the fighters the PFP best fighters have fought, and their record, their consistency, and the entertainment of the fights… is anyone really even close?Fedor has never lost. He is a WRESTLER who has has beautiful knockouts with strikers.He has fought 7 fighters with title belts in their respective divisions.He has beaten the best HW fighters in their primes (Big Nog, cro-cop, Schiltz, maybe Mark Coleman / Randleman, Mark Hunt (7W2L at time with wins over Wanderlei and Cro-Cop), and Brett Rogers).  

    I’m afraid that ship has sailed. Fedor was the best, but he’s been fighting UFC cast-offs and ex-bouncers for the last few years.

  • twyg says:

    This non fighting began with the Cote fight, and has continued with every fighter that does not go into the fight swinging like a madman. Why should these guys give him the chance to counter attack? He should be able to finish these guys off if he is “The best fighter on the planet”.

  • bainsta says:

    This is so easy to rectify.
    Simply penalise a point ,any fighter who chooses not to engage in any given round .
    for example Houston Alexander against Kimbo.
    And Anderson Silva’s fights.
    If a fighter chooses to avoid combat then he should be penalised.
    They are payed to fight.

  • crane_style says:

    I am with Brendhan on this one.
    While I would have like to see Silva finish Maia, it was very clear, very early, that Maia did not belong in the cage with Silva.While some are saying that Silva’s antics may be disrespectful, I beleive that the UFC disrespected the Champ.A fighter that is arguablity the best P4P fighter should be give fights that are not close to a waste of of time.The UFC’s damage control to find a replacement for Vitor is the main reason this main event was lack luster!!There were other options for a Silva match.The best would have been a fight at 205.A victory at 205 could have solidified a 205 for Silva and Shogun (provide Rua beats Machida).This scenario would have still made UFC 112 a great card on paper as it still would have a title fight & a legends fight, and included Anderson attempting to establish himself as the best P4P.In the end the UFC takes most of the blame in my book.  

    So you’re argument is that Silva is such a great fighter, when he comes up against an inferior opponent, he has to prolong the fight, and then end it by running away?

    And some how this is the UFC’s fault?

    That makes about as much sense as Silva’s game plan. A great champ proves he’s that by going after inferior opponents, showing they don’t belong in the ring.

    Grandstanding and showboating is fun to watch and really cool if you’re bringing it. But when that’s your main strategy?

    I’m beginning to wonder if Silva has lost the will to fight.

  • s00nertp says:

    I’m afraid that ship has sailed. Fedor was the best, but he’s been fighting UFC cast-offs and ex-bouncers for the last few years.  

    so I guess you are just insulting the HW division with that comment. Is Shane Carwin a retired cast-off wrestler? or is he only that once he loses? What about Frank Mir, with his last loss is he also a UFC cast off? I dont even understand why you watch the HW division with that comment.

    Brett was ranked in the top5 before fighting Fedor, and Tim and Arlovski were in the top10. The HW division has the highest turn-over of any other than 205 for the UFC. In fact there are no other dominant HWs in the history of the sport other than Fedor. I find that makes thing even more impressive, not less.

    Come back with something educated.

  • blue says:

    I am still holding out for Lindland-Fedor II. That fight is going to rock!

  • MickeyC says:

    silva took the punk way out! no doubt about it. we all know he is a better fighter than this.makes me sick. and all the people saying maybe he shoukd get a title shot @ 205, go lay down, yougotta be kidding me.. with a performace like that, what a chump. i hope the give him jones for his next 205. dude hits harder and runs faster than anderson!! & i know he could take him down.

  • MickeyC says:

    & if he tries that airagant ass hands down, chin out, bent over crap with jones & his ass will wake up in the back of the arena!!

  • MickeyC says:

    there is nothing wrong with a little show Boating, as long as you can finnish. but to lay it on that thick and not even try to finish, makes my nuts hurt! what a waste of my time, and to think i could have spent it taking a crap or somthing! but don’t worry anderson fans. i’m sure his manager & trainer will have a perfectly good explanation as to why silva looked like he belongs onan undercard.

  • Rece Rock says:

    Give him a break maybe he had big money on the fight goin the distance : )

  • mark says:

    1. I am sure a lot had to do with Demian Maia being Brazilian. Patriotism amongst people in other countries is a lot different than in the US. It is obvious he did not want to hurt him.
    2. A good match for Silva would be Jon Bones Jones.

  • MCCastaneda says:

    Crane

    I am not saying that his performance was good, in fact I was as upset like everyone else.
    I blame the UFC for my disappointment because they “threw” an opponenet that could not even touch (literally) a hands on his hip, trash talker in the center of the ring.

    Don’t get me wrong, I wanted Anderson to fight back and after 2-3 mins of his antics I no longer found them funny as well. But Maia couldn’t do anything about it!!! Anderson would not have acted the way he did if Vitor was his opponent. Vitor would have punched his face in.

  • Dufresne says:

    so I guess you are just insulting the HW division with that comment. Is Shane Carwin a retired cast-off wrestler? or is he only that once he loses? What about Frank Mir, with his last loss is he also a UFC cast off? I dont even understand why you watch the HW division with that comment.

    What? I don’t understand how that makes any sense. No Shane Carwin isn’t a “retired cast-off wrestler” he’s a hell of a fighter with a bit of time left in his career. Is Mir a UFC cast off? Um, no, yeah he lost his last fight in pretty spectacular fashion, but he’s at worst a mid to high level gate keeper.
    Arlovski was a quality opponent, but Tim Sylvia hasn’t been the same in a long time. His last quality win was against Arlovski in a complete snooze-fest in 2006. Since then he’s had some more terribly boring wins against mid and low tier level fighters and was KO’d by a 45+ year old retired boxer just last year. You can’t pretend that Sylvia was a solid win for Fedor.
    Rogers isn’t a bad fighter, but ranked top 5? That’s a bit of over-hype due to the fact that he found Arlovski’s glass chin.
    I have to agree overall that Fedor has been fighting cans lately, and if you look at the records of those he’s faced in the recent past, you’ll probably agree.

    Now the second part of your argument, is 100% true. The HW division is a shark tank possibly second to the LHW division, but even that is arguable.

    Oh and Fedor is the most dominant HW in history, but the key word there is “history.” Yes, he’s basically undefeated, but all of his dominant performances against true challenges happened in the past. Until I see him fight a solid, relevant threat, my opinion is going to stay that way.

  • GIKE MOLDBERG says:

    If you really want to see Anderson Silva pushed to his absolute limits-then put him in the cage with Cain Velasquez-believe me-non of his goofy antics would last more than 2 seconds

  • TerribleT says:

    Dana and Joe Silva should have known better than to put another BJJ specialist in the cage with Anderson Silva. Didn’t they learn their lesson when they put Thales Leites in with Anderson? This was just an extension of that fight. For some reason I Anderson doesn’t want to hurt other Brazilians in the cage or maybe it’s Brazilians that are BJJ experts. That’s twice now that he could have easily taken out a Brazilian BJJ opponent but he chose to carry them the full 5 rounds. If Dana and Joe are stupid enough to put another Brazilian BJJ expert in with Anderson again I guarantee the same thing will happen! Get a clue Dana and Joe!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • Angry Mike says:

    Twyg is right about Silva’s antics He behaved as strangely in the Cote fight. Cote blew his knee out and that prematurely ended the fight., and also the strange behavior. If it had gone five rounds, though, it would have been as bizarre as this one was. Who knows what the hell it’s about? I’ll bet my next paycheck that White or Lorenzo have some pretty blunt comments for Silva and/or Soares. It must be galling to watch one of your most talented champions jerk off for five rounds and get booed in the process.

  • bigbadjohn says:

    I just waited all f**king day, avoiding sports television and all my favorite websites to watch this on late broadcast. and all i can say or think is G S P

  • beef says:

    I can’t help but wonder if these “performances” have anything to do with his desire to get out of his UFC contract and make a bunch of money in boxing… He will be stuck in the UFC subject to the whims of DW & the Fertitas for as long as he is the Champion. The “Champions clause” sees to that. Even if he retires, he can not compete in any competing organization (boxing included) for 18 months (24?) to fulfill the terms of his contract.

    I wonder if part of the reason is that Silva wants to have the UFC terminate his contract without him having to lose the belt so he can make the ma amount of $$$ possible with an untarnished image.

    I know, silly comments like this will likely get me lots of thumbs downs and a quick disappearance of this post.

  • edub says:

    Im gonna post this in both this thread and the Edgar thread, it’s my thoughts on the whole event:

    -I am sick of Anderson’s acts. He’s done something like this in 3 out of his past 5 fights. There can’t be any replacement fighters for anderson from now on. He either needs to fight Chael at MW, a top 5 or Jon Jones at LHW, a HW, or GSP. Once he’s dominated so much in the beginning of a fight he seems to shut down. It remind’s me of boxing.

    -Frankie Edgar did a great job, hats off to him. He weathered the storm early, and took BJ in to the later rounds where he had a let down. It seems the pace Edgar kept the fight at tired BJ out.
    In saying all this I believe the fight was a draw. I gave BJ the first 2 rounds and Edgar the last two with the third being a draw. How a judge could call that fight 50-45 baffles the mind.

    -Mark Munoz and Phil davis look like absolute wrecking machines. Munoz with some obvious tough moments in the first round pushed through very well. His GNP is sick. It;s time for Davis to take a step up to some better competition. That anaconda choke was perfectly set up.

  • crane_style says:

    so I guess you are just insulting the HW division with that comment.Is Shane Carwin a retired cast-off wrestler? or is he only that once he loses? What about Frank Mir, with his last loss is he also a UFC cast off? I dont even understand why you watch the HW division with that comment.Brett was ranked in the top5 before fighting Fedor, and Tim and Arlovski were in the top10.The HW division has the highest turn-over of any other than 205 for the UFC.In fact there are no other dominant HWs in the history of the sport other than Fedor.I find that makes thing even more impressive, not less.Come back with something educated.  

    No, not the HW division, just the guys from that Fedor has been fighting. Brett ranked in the top 5? Maybe the top 5 at Strikeforce? Arlovski is a good fighter when he doesn’t get knocked out in the first round, but then he gets knocked out all the time.

    The only thing you got right was when you talked about the HW division being stacked. But if you were to draw up the top ten in the HW division, who of Fedor’s opponents belong there today, not in 2004? Maybe Arlovski and Rogers down around 9th or 10th.

    And on top of that, the guys he’s been fighting haven’t got any big wins against top opponents. Most of their “big” victories have come against Arlovski and Tim Silvia. And I’m sorry, but knocking out some one that everyone else has knocked out, isn’t that impressive.

    Fedor hasn’t fought a top 5 fighter in his prime since Cro Crop and that was in 2005. So if you think beating Hong Man Choi, Matt Linland or Mark Hunt is even remotely impressive, guess who needs the education?

  • Yourdaddydevilandlord says:

    You want a thrilling fight, lets get Silva/Jones at LHW next. Come on, you know it will be sick. After what Bones did to Hamil and Vera I want that fight. That or Silva/GSP at Middleweight.

  • Richard Stabone says:

    I gave Anderson the benefit of the doubt up until tonight. No more. I’m not going to try to come up with a cute comment to describe his performance tonight, or express my disgust, other than to simply say it was weak.

    It’s interesting how many topics Fedor’s name randomly comes up in. He was The Man of MMA before the UFC took off. He was The Man after the UFC took off and the UFC HW division sucked. And in the past couple years since the UFC eventually developed an exciting HW division, nothing has changed Fedor’s status… other than people complaining that instead of knocking out Arlovski and Brett Anderson he should’ve been fighting Randy and Brock. I love Randy as much as the next guy, but Fedor handles him easily. And Brock…well, prior the the sudden layoff it would’ve been interesting. But who knows. I love the UFC, I love the UFC, and I want to see the best fighters fight the best fighters. And yet I can somehow reconcile the reality of it all without somehow pretending that Fedor isn’t still exactly what he is — The Man of MMA.

  • Mike says:

    Simple fix? Bring back the yellow card of Pride. Start docking some cash out of the winner’s purse and you’ll see this type of disrespect and mockery come to a screeching halt.
    For that meathead of a ref to warn Silva with 48 seconds left in the 5th round was faint at best. He did not want to affect the decision and cause possible draw or even have Maia winning this abortion of a fight.
    Yellow cards and more forced stand ups will force these guys to do what they are paid to do: fight.

  • Fightplan says:

    Anderson’s attitude was a disgrace to MMA and Martial Arts as a whole. He should have been DQ’d for such antics. He played with and mocked Maia as though he was a joke and yet couldn’t put him away. It would be good to see someone knock him out while he is acting like that. It seems he has to start acting like an idiot just to throw his opponent off. What a shame!

  • twyg says:

    The reason I brought Fedor into this is because people (including myself) get pissed that he is fighting lackluster compition, and not the best in the world. The one thing that is undeniable is that at least he finishes the fight. This is not about not wanting to hurt brazilians thing or a BJJ thing or a boxing thing (Roy Jones JR. just lost to hopkins and that fight is probably off). It is that he doesn’t get up for something that is not a challenge; he does just enough to win. That is not what the best do. The best go out and prove it everytime they get a chance. That is what separates Fedor from everyone else. He knows Brett Rodgers had no business being in the same arena as him and he proved it. Silva probably gave away two rounds from lack of action. Every other ref should do what Dan did but earlier. That is what I liked about Pride; the only way people learn is when you fuck with their money.

  • slammy862 says:

    I have 3 words for king silva:

    Jon..Bones..Jones, jack!

    Give this kid another year and just try to play your bs grab-ass-and -run against this kid.

    I know gsp is next and I can already see you running around the cage and out-pointing the under-sized canadian.(which will nullify gsp’s strength.)

    Ladies and gentlemen, jones will be the destruction of this sickening ufc clown.

    I was hoping for him to upgrade to fedor, but jones will suffice, you boring, dancing dipsh*t.

    And fyi, once you get your assed kicked, all that confidence will drain out of you like piss down the side of your leg.

  • hindsightufuk says:

    kinda cant be fucked to say anything about this other than it was shit. first 7 minutes was funny, then got tedious, i almost ended up watching the last two rounds on FF.
    i was wondering if this is Silva’s way of getting out of his UFC contract so he can fight Roy Jones

    Would rater concentrate on fighters who deserve the airtime. Mark Munoz was huge, awesome comeback, he looked done 3 or 4 times in the first round, great performance
    Rafael dos Anjos looked great as well
    Congrats to Frankie as well, didnt think he’d come close but BJ looked off all night, plus he looked softer than he has done recentley

  • liquid_shovel says:

    Ok, so in the post fight press conference after GSP’s recent fight with Hardy, GSP explains how it’s simply mathematically intelligent to play to your strengths and your opponent’s weaknesses in a fight, which is why he took Hardy down and put the fight on the mat, and anyone who actually trains and has fought knows this to be the most intelligent way to win a fight. It’s a chess match. Obviously A. Silva’s strength is his stand-up, but the guy’s also a bjj blackbelt. Guess what??? That’s his strength too!!! And he has proven his skill on the ground on more than one occasion against guys like Lutter, Henderson and Leites – submitting the first two, and with Leites, by being able to get out of dangerous positions and back to his feet. When “stand-up” guys like Liddel or Machida are able to stuff takedown attempts, they’re praised for they’re amazing skill at take-down defense and being able to stay on their feet, but when Silva does it, he’s a boring fighter, “scared” of being submitted etc. These arguments are seriously idiotic. Part of being a great stand-up fighter is being able to stuff a shot and keep the fight standing, if that’s what you want to do….if that’s where you have the best chance of winning. Silva keeps the fight where ever he wants it and now ……HERE COME THE HATERS!!!! The fact that he can do that just proves how good he actually is. And yeah, he can win on the ground too against top level competition, champs, ex-champs and bjj champs. He’s already done it. He doesn’t need to do it over and over again to prove it to fools who know nothing about fighting.

    The fact of the matter is that Silva’s ability NOT to be able to be taken to the ground by someone of Maia’s skill level and pick them apart at the same time standing up, is really just a testament to Silva’s skill level. He has the offense and the defense. What kind of fool would stuff a shot, and then willingly jump into the guard of somebody like Maia, who’s just laying there like a punk, who’s strength is his ground game and knows that’s his only CHANCE of winning? ….it’s not even close to a guarantee, as already noted above and Silva has already proven more than once. Or every time one of these “bjj masters” gets punched in the face by Silva and falls to the floor, why in god’s name would Silva then jump in their guard to play to their strength? Get up!! If you can take him down, then that’s where the fight goes. See what happens then. If you can’t, the fight stays standing up. If you can’t deal with that, you shouldn’t be fighting in the UFC in the first place. And Dana of all people should know that and stop being a whiney little bitch because Anderson didn’t save his show and make him another $100 million dollars!! Silva felt disrespected by Maia because he too, is a bjj blackbelt, but it was just assumed by Maia and everyone else that if it went to the ground, Silva would get submitted. Not only is that not necessarily the case, but Maia couldn’t even get him there in the first place!! So Silva clowned him and now everyone is pissed at Anderson because he did for the last 2 rounds what all these bjj guys do to him standing up all the time: not engage. All he did was prove a point and now everyone is a hater!! If you can’t take him down or do anything to him when he is down, don’t blame it on Silva for just being too damn good!!!

    So Dana’s “disgusted?” Who cares? The fact is that it’s all about money, and since Penn lost, UFC brass wanted Silva to finish the fight in spectacular fashion, especially with this being the first big UFC event in the Middle East, which he could have done quite easily if he wanted to, but didn’t to prove a point… the point being, “you wanna fight me on the ground, get me there and let’s see what happens.” Penn’s loss was a shock to pretty much everyone, and since Silva didn’t “save the day” with a knock-out, the expected results of this event were pretty much a big disappointment. The reason Silva is as good a fighter and champion as he is, just broke the UFC record for most title defenses, is because apart from being light years beyond everyone else in skill level, he’s a smart fighter. Stop hating and get a clue before you post nonsense on all these MMA sites. Go hate somewhere else!!!!

  • Sykotick says:

    Who gives a shit about what Fedor is doing!?!?

    This is about ANDERSON SILVA, MIDDLEWEIGHT

  • Sykotick says:

    Who gives a shit about what Fedor is doing!?!?

    This is about ANDERSON SILVA, MIDDLEWEIGHT

    YES Fedor is a freakin stud, beast, mammoth and anyother compliment, but he has squat to do with this article.

    And lets face it, Sylvia lost to Couture, beat Vera, lost to Nog, then Fedor, Then MERCER!!!

    Arlovski: Wasnt he gassing against Rothwell, he WAS LOSING TO BIG COUNTRY, got smashed by Fedor (that was timing not luck) then embarrased by Rogers,

    And who is Roger’s biggest win?! Arlovski a guy who has dropped 2 straight, and lost to Sylvia TWICE. What about before that? James Thompson? Humphrey?

    Not exactly teaming with with guys that really belong in the top 10, but I digress…. WTF SILVA?!? How did you embarrass Griffen then embarrass yourself in a win?!

  • hindsightufuk says:

    stick silva in against Toney now

  • MickeyC says:

    and to think, this could have been a remath with henderson. damm you white! ha,ha!

  • nkats says:

    UFC really needs to adopt that Pride-esque yellow card rule, and actually fine ppl part of their pay packet. AND refs need to be a bit more hasty in docking points

  • nkats says:

    For those that don’t know, Pride used to dock fighters % of their pay if they avoided fighting after a warning

  • Mad_Hatter_XX says:

    Yawn. Seems it is the BJJ guys that bring out the assclown in Anderson. He knows all he has to do is outstrike a grappler and stay off the ground for an easy decision victory.

    He only really fights when he fights another striker. Look at the Franklin,Griffin and Henderson fights. 3 guys who had more than just slick ground game. Henderson is a top notch wrestler but, he has KO power. Maybe Griffin didn’t stand a chance but, his only hope was on his feet which is where Silva chooses to stay so there was motivation to knock him out.

    I agree about putting him in with Bones at 205. Someone who isn’t gonna sit there and just get punched in the face. If he really wants to bang at HW let him fight JDS or Cain Velasquez. Let him try his act there and see how it works.

  • raker says:

    What really confused me about this fight was how Silva was taunting Maia and demanding that he step in to engage, but as soon as Maia moved forward, Silva would back away and taunt him some more. Silva was definitely the one who was refusing to engage.

    Also, I’d be interested in seeing the scorecards. As far as I know, in the 10 point must system there is the consideration of ring generalship. I think that it is highly possible that Maia won 3 rounds to 2. Not that Maia actually won the fight, but Silva may have lost it based on the judging criteria. Could you imagine the embarassment of the UFC middleweight champ and arguably PFP king losing his belt in this manner? I’m not so sure that there wasn’t some influence in the actual decision of the fight other than the judges scorecards.

  • raker says:

    Yawn. Seems it is the BJJ guys that bring out the assclown in Anderson. He knows all he has to do is outstrike a grappler and stay off the ground for an easy decision victory.  (Quote)

    I’d agree with you if the Cote fight didnt happen. Cote is a sure striker and Anderson didnt engae him either

  • hindsightufuk says:

    liquid shovel i agree to a point, Anderson won a 25 minute fight without taking any punishment and without barely throwing a strike in the last 3 rounds. it is impressive that he can do that but, this is fighting. he’s proved he can not get hit before, a few times now.
    i dont blame people who came to see one of the most vicous strikers in the world, paid a fortune to see it live, or paid a good chunk of their salary to see it on tv, i dont blame them for saying fuck you, you wasted my money. no one is to blame for all the anderson silva haters except anderson silva

  • darth_irritable says:

    If Silve wants to fight heavyweights, put him in with Carwin and see what he does with his face moved to the back of his skull.

    Or Mir, who could definitely sub him out in nasty ways.

  • Dufresne says:

    If Silve wants to fight heavyweights, put him in with Carwin and see what he does with his face moved to the back of his skull.
    Or Mir, who could definitely sub him out in nasty ways.  

    No way Mir subs him, Silva has just as nasty a ground game as Mir, probably better to be honest. Add that in with the fact that his standup, speed, and elusiveness are light years ahead of Franks and the only way Mir would get this fight to the ground would be to eat a lot of shots on the way in and then get subbed himself.
    Not positive Carwin would get the KO either. If he landed a shot, I’m positive it would be over, pretty sure Carwin has the power to put anyone to sleep if he connects. But I don’t see him being able to catch Silva as much as he moves. Carwin’s big KO’s have come against guys with almost zero head movement who aren’t nearly as fast as Anderson, so I’m not sure Carwin could catch The Spider.
    Cain might be a fun fight, he’s got a pretty solid chin and has excellent wrestling, so that might actually work. He wouldn’t fight JDS, they train together.

    I think the most exciting fights for him at LHW would be Shogun or Lyoto (in theory, in reality it would suck even if it did happen, Silva would never engage with Lyoto and they’d both just dance around to a decision).

  • liquid_shovel says:

    Hindsightfuk-

    I hear what you’re saying. BUT, the people who did pay that good money to see the best striker in the world got to see exactly that for TWO ROUNDS!! With Forrest it was only two minutes and no one complained about that. Why? Because Forrest got knocked out. And that’s the problem. Re-watch the 1st two rounds. The damage he inflicted on Maia and the manner in which he did it was like something out of a movie. Did you see Maia’s face & legs after the fight? Silva put on a clinic and made his point at the same time – his point to the fans, to the ufc, and to any other fighters. People are upset because he didn’t knock Maia out. Why should he? To make Dana happy? To make some drunken fan go “oooohhh shhiiiitttt!!!” He felt Maia disrespected him, he beat the crap out of him and that’s it. Silva is kind of in the same predicament as Fedor. He doesn’t owe anybody anything and has nothing left to prove, and because of that and the attitude he takes, people hate on him. Until someone walks a mile in his shoes they shouldn’t be so quick to judge.

    And at the end of the day, this problem will always exist with great fighters, because a true fighter always fights for himself, his own sense of dignity, respect and what he believes in – for each individual person its different and something we as fans don’t know, and obviously don’t respect. And this being a business ultimately, about money ultimately, and about satisfying blood-lusting fans and money-lusting businessmen, eventually you’re gonna have a conflict of interests. Do you stay true to yourself and why you fight/challenge yourself in the 1st place? Or once you reach a certain height sacrifice some of that integrity just to appease the people who admire what you do but can’t do it themselves, built you up but are so quick to turn when they don’t get what they want that this now becomes your motivation for fighting: money, fans and that the fans that built you up don’t now tear you down? I actually think it was more dignified of Silva NOT to knock Maia out. It would’ve been completely unnecessary.

    If anyone was a “fan” of Anderson on Friday and isn’t today, you were never a fan to begin with and obviously don’t know the definition of the word. If you’re that guy, any other fighter you say you’re a “fan” of means about absolutely nothing. You’re like the MMA equivalent of a fair-weather friend. And to all the haters (and nut-huggers for that matter) until you yourself step in that cage, at that level, make all the necessary sacrifices, win a title, defend it again and again and again, maybe you shouldn’t be so quick to criticize. I’d like to see you go knock out Damian Maia or submit Dan Hardy etc, etc……

    HSF….no disrespect man. This response is general, not personal. I appreciate your opinions.

  • hindsightufuk says:

    hey that’s cool, i think you’re the first person on here to really put forward an argument FOR Anderson.
    I see what you’re saying, though the problem with Anderson Silva fighting for Anderson Silva, is that not many other people want to see it. i was watching this with a friend who is a strictly boxing man, who is insistent if you put a boxer and an mma guy together the boxer wins. i have been slowly bringing him round, but twice last night it looked like i had no clue what i was talking about.
    Before the BJ Penn fight i said how this is one of my favorite fighters, one of the best p4p in the world of combat, not just mma, and then for 25 minutes he did nothing, looked awful. then i said the same about Anderson, he isnt one of my all time favourites like BJ/Randy/Genki/Saku/Mach/Nog, but he is incredible, violent, immensely talented. i had him sold until round three, then he spent rounds 4 & 5 smoking in the garden thinking i was a dick.

    I think maybe you’re right, he is fighting for himself. winning fights however he wants. but for me it was frustrating to watch. I really though he was trying to get out of his UFC contract.
    I also don’t understand why he apologized to everyone afterward, if that is the fight he wanted to fight, why go on about how Damiens punches caught him by suprise. it just didnt make sense. even his corner between rounds looked perplexed.

  • hindsightufuk says:

    and i really wanna see him fight Toney!!

  • adamsfamily says:

    Youre right hindsight – Toney is the remedy to the situation – Dana win/wins either way, watch him put it on the next versus card for free.

  • nkats says:

    Unfortunately (and fortunately in a lot of cases) as fans, we’re slaves to whatever a fighter decides to leave in the ring. It has gotten to a point that Anderson is so far above his division, and most probably the sport (i’m sure he’d now be far below Machida and Fedor) in his shots taken/fight time ratio. He currently has the easiest job in MMA going over his last few fights (this is not a go at Silva, as his work ethic over the years has put him in this position, props to him), seeing that his ability to shut out his opponent in the first two rounds has enabled him to do what he likes for the remainder of the fight.

    However, taunting to the extent he did Maia was not really helpful.Sure, i can understand that as a fighter in a cage with someone standing opposite you with bad intentions, taunting can really assist in developing a mental edge, as you become more sure of your ability, and your opponent doubts his own, but the manner in which you do so can have a negative effect to the point that it is deemed disrespectful.

    Dana has the right as a fan to be pissed off at Anderson’s performance, but as a part owner of the company, even he does NOT have the right to TELL Anderson how to fight. I, for one, would have loved to see a knockout, and if Dana wants knockouts and dominant performances from his champions, provide them with opponents that will force that action. I admire and kind of feel for Maia, his heart was huge in that fight given he knew he was losing, and knew he had to play Anderson’s game in order to win. Unfortunately for every fighter with a grappling background that faces him, the fight will begin standing, in which he will always have the advantage at the start of the fight. That being said, Maia did accept the fight, knowing that this could/would potentially happen. Its not Anderson’s choice/fault regarding the challengers put in front of him, and he he has beaten them all. If said it before and i’ll say it again, if the UFC want to prevent fighters from avoiding combat, educate refs to be quicker on warning and penalizing (round 5 is not a good time….) and enforce yellow card rules that were so effective in Pride.

    P.S. Dana if you do want a knockout from ur champion so badly, get Ryo Chonnan on the roster again, guarantee AS won’t let him get out of the ring on his own two legs.

  • liquid_shovel says:

    I hear ya man

    I think the apologies and comments afterward were more just damage control and him saying what he was expected to say, especially considering the circumstances. I’m sure he knew Dana wasn’t happy, so apologized, said something nice about Maia cuz he knew he was gonna get his ass yelled at by brass in the back anyway. And I also think the BJ loss plays into this…Penn’s also one of my favorite fighters. I think a lot of the disappointment that a lot of people felt about that fight got converted into expectation that got thrown unfairly on Silva’s head. People were pissed, disappointed, shocked etc….I get that….but at the end of the day, your own personal emotional disappointment cuz you’re favorite fighter didn’t win isn’t Anderson Silva’s problem!!

    Honestly man, I think there’s so much stuff going on behind the scenes that we as fans don’t know about that it’s always gonna end up leading to speculation to some degree, and, unfortunately, people bashing fighters for the wrong reasons. I mean as you said, you thought Silva was trying to get out of his contract or something…..I just read somewhere that he just re-signed an 8-fight deal with ufc!!! So who knows?

    I think people should just be a little more objective and open minded. Everyone is always bitching that Rogan’s commentary sways opinions about the fights….EVEN ON THIS SITE- I see the comments all the time. Then, just because the writer of this article (no offense Cory) spins it a bit against Silva, you have 200 posts bashing Silva, and the same guys writing the posts bashing Silva are the ones who bitch about how people are weak minded and so easily swayed by Rogan!! Does anyone see a parallel here??? Step back a bit man, think before you type, and if you don’t train or never have, just realize that there may be some limitations to what you know and what you don’t know. That’s not a bad thing man, it just is what it is. In realizing some of those limitations, all of us might be a little less quick to criticize the most gifted people on the planet doing what they do best, and then questioning why they did it that way.

    And BJ will be back….as usual the judging is just mind-boggling….

  • slammy862 says:

    @liquid-shovel:

    Let me get this straight. You think every reader and commenter on this site is so simple-minded that they just follow whatever opinion Rogan or the publishers have?

    Whoa! And I thought Silva was insulting.

    Just because everyone here isn’t a ufc fighter that doesn’t make their opinion any more or less valid. Come on, that’s just goofy. Without fans their is no ufc. Don’t talk politics unless you run for office.

    “Behind the scenes”?…WTF? You think because Silva is the best that this horsesh*t is acceptable?
    Wrong way of thinking. Champions act like champions and a-holes act like a-holes. What he did was bush-league and you could tell it made Hughes sick, as well.

    Look buddy, nobody gets a free pass for that crap, NOBODY! This wouldn’t fly in my gym and sure as hell shouldn’t be tolerated by professionals. And don’t confuse general agreement on any topic as weak-minded. It is what it is my man.

    Take your own advice and think before you type and never assume that everyone else is a moron for not agreeing with you and leave out the condescending tone when trying to make a point. It works against ya.

    No offense and nothing personal, but this had to be said.

  • hd says:

    When 2 fighters are on the ground and nothing is happening they stand them up. When 2 fighters are standing and nothing is happening they should put them in a clinch and see what happens from there. That might have made this fight a whole lot more interesting. Also, bring in the yellow card system.

  • liquid_shovel says:

    @stammy862

    Couple of things:

    First off, you completely misconstrued what I said about Rogan, writers and people in authority positions and how they influence the people who listen to them. I never said, “every reader and commenter on this site is so simple-minded that they just follow whatever opinion Rogan or the publishers have” ……you just did – and did it in such a way as to make it seem like that’s what I was implying, which I was not. Please don’t put words in my mouth that I never said or suggest to imply that I meant things which I never meant.

    Next: You’re right….Just because everyone here is not a ufc fighter does not make their opinion any more or less valid….it just makes their opinions that: opinions, not facts. Your argument here is tantamount to people commenting on a site about neurology and brain surgery, and suggesting that just because they don’t have the 14 years of medical training necessary to be a brain surgeon doesn’t mean that their opinions on the subject are not valid. The facts are that yeah, if that was the case, their opinions don’t mean shit. So sorry, just because you’re a “fan” doesn’t necessarily mean that you know what you’re talking about. Just to nail this point home about people’s opinions having any relevance in a specialty art like fighting, I guess if you were to take every current champion holding a belt right now in respective associations and have them give their opinions and analysis on this forum about specific fights, their point of view should hold no more water than the average “fan” who comments on the same fight because everyone’s opinion is equal. That’s what you just suggested with your comment. You’re digging your own grave.

    Did you see, in any of my posts, anything remotely resembling, “because Silva is the best that this horsesh*t is acceptable?” I don’t. As a matter of fact, I never even referenced his show-boating at all. You brought that up and pinned it to my previous posts in an attempt (another failed one, at that) to change the subject completely to fit your agenda….whatever that is….I’ll assume it’s being a “tough-guy” because you just couldn’t leave out the fact that Anderson Silva’s antics wouldn’t fly in your gym. You know what, I’d pay every last dollar I had to see you confront him on the issue in “your gym” and see how it turned out. Then all the mma experts on this site could give their “opinions” on how your ass-beating went down.

    Then there’s the “champions act like champions” line….how stoic and noble. And you are a champion of what, exactly, to be in a position to make such a bold assertion? Oh yeah, NOBODY gets a free pass in your gym….perhaps you should give a few out….it could drum up extra business to counterbalance your cheery personality. Maybe the statement you made about “a-holes acting llke a-holes” is more relevant here. And who gives a crap what Matt Hughes thinks? Again, something I never even brought up in any of my posts. Apart from this specific post, I’d say that what you wrote was more aggressive and angry than all of mine put together. I don’t think any of my “points” worked against me…I’m not competing with anyone here, except in this one instance, to point out how you either completely misinterpreted or simply misunderstood just about everything else I wrote. I don’t have to assume that certain people are morons….that’s the great thing about it….they usually just out themselves. Congratulations. And trust me….I’m not offended or taking it personally that I just completely burned you on every point you brought up in your overly aggressive (you an Overeem fan??) and completely irrelevant post. Sorry, this just had to be said – YOU LOSE. Cheerio.

  • slammy862 says:

    I thought about a rebuttal, but I think your “cherrio,” says it all.

    Tell the queen I said hey. Now get out there and play some soccer!

    I will not address this again and I’m sorry for dropping to this level.

    I hate this kind of crap, but if not checked, brits can get out of line.

    Congrats Frankie!

  • liquid_shovel says:

    I’m American, not British. Should I post that old adage about when you “assume”…..???? Like I said, morons generally just out themselves. And if you did post a rebuttal, you’d get owned again like you just did on this one and on your original post. There’s nothing to rebut. Don’t make derogatory nationalistic comments and then talk about how you don’t want to drop to a certain level. You’re already there.

  • nkats says:

    I think a simple and feasible conclusion to the problem of Anderson’s antics might be lying in his current weight class. Aside from Vitor and Chael, who is there left for him to fight? Sexyama? Wanderlei (bless his heart and reconstructed nose)? Vitor and Chael might be enough fights for him for the rest of the year, but i think he needs to sit down with Ed Soares and Dana, and try and negotiate a permanent move to LHW.

    Off the top of my head, i think there would be a fair few people that would be willing to purchase a PPV headlines Silva vs (insert one of the following: Rua, Evans, Jackson, Jones, T. Silva, Bader in a few fights time, MACHIDA WILL NOT HAPPEN). Its not hard to picture that after Vitor and Sonnen, if Silva took maybe 4 fights at LHW, he’d be pushing maybe 36-37 years old, and he seems like too much of a controlled guy to find it difficult to stop fighting.
    He now has the most consecutive title defenses in UFC history, if he adds 2 more with vitor and sonnen, what does he have left to do at 185? Go to Strikeforce and challenge Mousasi????????

    As much as people want to complain about his antics, disinterest, disrespect, boredom, dominance, harm minimization or however u decide to angle your opinion on how Anderson is currently fighting, at the end of the day, as long as he keeps winning, he will always need another opponent.

    Ed Soares, your job is to promote ur client, raise his stocks, and put him in a position to further establish or cement his legacy. I don’t think anything else can be done with his current weight class.

  • inkythewinky says:

    i just watched the fight again and i cannot blame anderson for that, maia shuffled his arms for the first 2 rounds , round 3 he threw like3-4 punches, in round 4 anderson used machida style, which machida fights like that every round, maia threw 4-5 punches and shuffled his arms the rest of the time, and at this point everyone is looking at anderson saying “why dosnt he finish him” , guess what, he has the belt, why dosnt maia do something offencive? does he not want the belt? all maia is doing is trying to hang in there, he is not doing anything, u have to beat the champ to be the champ and i dont think he really wants that belt, round 5- another take down attempt which have all been stuffed, wow maia actually did something, the first time the WHOLE FIGHT!! oh, guess that ended cause now all hes doing is shuffling his arms again, anderson is circling around him , waiting for the challenger to CHALLENGE , maia grabbed him for a second but gone, maia is raising his arms like come on, maia, you dont have the belt, YOU need to come on, mirgliota warns silva, the fight ends with silva using machida style and maia shuffling his arms like he did the whole fight, i think dana white got bent out of shape for the wrong reasons, i think maia did 1 good exchange the whole fight, and silva made a mockery of him, the fight was just what we expected, silva/leites 2 , u cant blame the champ for the challenger not wanting to do anything (same thing i said in the leites fight)

  • GIKE MOLDBERG says:

    I will keep this short and important-Anderson Silva needs to face someone that has a serious chance of kicking his ass-the immediate short list is: Cain Velasquez(HW)-Jon Jones(LHW)-and last-but not least-Gegard Mousasi(OUT OF PROMOTION THREAT)

  • manny says:

    Calle it disrecpect or whatever u want to call it but Silva REALLY needs a challenge. Either Joe or Dana need to give him a challange b/c we will see the same thing happen again and trust me as much as I want him to ko his opponent, he’ll simply toy with them. There’s nothing anyone can do but give their opinion and it wont matter to him. Give him GSP next, if you really want to see Silva fight otherwise we’ll see the same result. There’s NO ONE in the UFC to beat silva. GO SILVA!

  • Dufresne says:

    If Silva is going to be challenged, he needs to go UP in weight class, not down.

    I don’t see GSP matching up well with Silva to be honest. GSP is a completely dominant WW, but I think the size difference would be huge. Silva has fought and dominated at MW and LHW over some of the best in the world, where as GSP has fought and dominated over WW and natural LWs. GSP may have world class wrestling, but so did Henderson, and Hendo is significantly bigger than GSP is. I really only see Belfort as the only MW challenge left, and after that I want to see him go up to test out that shark tank.

  • moosebaby02 says:

    I understand that Anderson feels disrespected by the talent level thats put in front of him replacement or not and he is out there to prove he can give it with out taken it. But it still sucks when you pay to watch a man do something he is so good at and KNOWS he can do it with ease.
    So who to blame???
    1. Anderson Silva: cause he has made it look so easy before that its all but given that its going to happen.
    2. His apponents: it should be annoying that your only game plan is to take him down and when he shows that you cant do it within the first 3 mins you dont have plan B, C, or D. Fuck sakes he is the champ for a reason….train like he is.
    3. UFC: HE IS BORED. Either you find someone, or sign someone, in WW (after Vitor) that can compete with him or force him to move up. Their are tons of fighters at 205 that wont be afraid to trade with him. Lil Nog, Jon Jones, T. Silva, Tony, Rampage………
    4.US THE FANS: for being so selfish and blood thirsty of a species that we would pay $59.99 to watch grown men go into a cage and try and kick the F out of each other liked their paid to do.

    Other than that i had a great time except that i lost $150 on the Penn fight but was never happier

  • baldguy80 says:

    Kudos to Maia for engaging in this fight, even if it was an insurmountable challenge to strike with Silva. (And Maia certainly shouldn’t have needed to be a marathoner in this fight.)

    And Kudos to referee Dan Mirgliotta, (sorry if I butchered the spelling) for threatening to take away a point. No one wants to see Anderson Silva run, or dance, or showboat, they want to see him fight.

    Dana can’t be too pleased right now with his antics…

    (Feed Silva to the sharks at the deep end of the light-heavyweight division if he’s so bored.)

  • manny says:

    Reason why DW wont give Silva the fight with GSP will be due to this performance “saying after this he doesn’t deserve to fight gsp”. Either way he was not going to set up this fight due to gsp’s promotion and selling ppv’s. I mean why let ur best fight get beat up right?

    You can only blame dana & J. silva for choosing Silvas’s opponents : Cote, Leites, Griffin, Henderson. Besides Hendo, who really had a chance against Silva. UFC needs to stop shotting their selfs on the foot and make the GSP vs Silva fight happen, b/c as long as Machida is the champ, he’ll not want to fight there. I dont blame Silva one bit for his mockery in fact I enjoyed it.

  • inkythewinky says:

    u thumb down my comments? watch the fight again like i did, i bet u will see it diffrent, and DW saying hes going to make it up to his fans put him with gsp, him not putting him with gsp is further punishment for us, thats what we want to see, remember DW talking about boxing saying “once again boxing is giving the fans another fight that they dont want” who the F wanted silva vs maia ?!!!!
    seriously, watch the fight again my earlier post was dead on, maia did 2 good exchanges, other than that he shuffled his arms like he was going to throw a punch but never did

  • inkythewinky says:

    and i want to add that dana white is mad that his bear didnt kill the rabbit in the octagon (i think thats what this is all about) if we were all so sure he would kick his ass maia should have never been in there in the first place

  • mabus says:

    Anderson put on a beautiful clinic in mma. Like always, it was awesome to watch. However, for those addicted to porno cum-shot compilations, it may not be what they want — so for those people, please don’t called it mixed martial arts; because obviously, you’re not interested in the _arts_ aspect. The _arts_ aspect should give you the freedom to express yourself in whatever way you see fit. Call it Ultimate Fighting, and stop debating about who the best 4p4 fighter is. Because it’s irrelevant in this Octogon. It’s all about entertainment. And who’s the 4p4 most entertaining…

    Keep shopping at Walmart, have a nice nap and enjoy the snacks.

    @

  • Dufresne says:

    Anderson put on a beautiful clinic in mma. Like always, it was awesome to watch. However, for those addicted to porno cum-shot compilations, it may not be what they want — so for those people, please don’t called it mixed martial arts; because obviously, you’re not interested in the _arts_ aspect. The _arts_ aspect should give you the freedom to express yourself in whatever way you see fit. Call it Ultimate Fighting, and stop debating about who the best 4p4 fighter is. Because it’s irrelevant in this Octogon. It’s all about entertainment. And who’s the 4p4 most entertaining…Keep shopping at Walmart, have a nice nap and enjoy the [email protected]  

    Anderson put on a beautiful clinic the first 2.5 rounds, I’ll agree with you there. But after that your post is both offensive and ignorant. I agree that “art” is freedom to express yourself, but at the same time there is a limit. If an “artist” leaves a canvas completely blank, are you going to spend money on it or call it a master piece? I wouldn’t. That’s exactly what Anderson did in the last 2.5 rounds. Nothing.

    Oh, and I will continue shopping at Walmart.

  • edub says:

    Dufresne don’t feed the idiot. Better to let him keep making up words like 4p4.

  • GIKE MOLDBERG says:

    MABUS-you perverted soul you-I give you a thumbs up for absolute lunacy-other than that-EDUB said it best-I rest my case

  • inkythewinky says:

    lmao 4p4

  • mabus says:

    4p4 — imagine if this thing didn’t auto-correct my spelling? Behind this computer screen I have the brain of Blaster and the body of Master. Still…

    Trying leaving a blank canvas in the Octogon. Not many people can do that, and those who can… well, p4p, THAt’S HOW YOU FIGHT. Send a guy to the hospital and go dance with the ladies, leave the bovine obscene consumer fans booing.

    Great job Andy. Now back to my compilations. Hendo-Bisbing, 911, XXX, starving children, Snickers bars, Haiti, and more XXX.

  • Bear says:

    Anderson Silva – great fighter with skills that are pretty much unmatched in MMA. Too bad he can’t draw a dime. With what we have seen of him in the last 3 fights I say cut his ass. Kick him to the curb, let Strikefarce have him. Let them pay the hell out of him and match him up against their studs at 185. Oh right they really only have on 185’er and he already beat him.

    Fire him or feed him to a heavyweight like he wants. Would never put him in with GSP as that would do major PPV numbers only on the weight of it being GSP and you would risk damaging GSP. I think it would be a closer fight than many thing but is a very very dangerous fight for GSP.

    Personally if I never see A. Silva fight again I wouldn’t be missing much. The guy totally screwed his own legacy with this headcase BS.

  • pinatacock says:

    While Silva is indeed a world class athlete, his antics on Saturday revealed that he is also a garden variety a**hole with little regard for the sport or the conduct of a fighter. No one, but no one, needs a beating more then Anderson Silva, although I fear his talent will prevent that from ever happening. And as far as setting him up against Lesnar, Mir or some other heavyweight, I hope it never happens. There are weight classes for a reason, and if he is ever going to get that beating he so richly deserves, much better it comes from someone his own size. Otherwise, it’s worthless.

  • liquid_shovel says:

    This post is specifically directed at the douche-bag who commented on my prior posts the other day after the Silva fight….funny that you know who you are, right?

    You can “thumbs-down” my posts as much as you want…..doesn’t mean that they’re not accurate. At the time, I was having a completely respectful dialogue with Hindsightfuk that was both mutually considerate and enjoyable to engage in. I’ve been a fan of this website for probably four or five years, but never posted anything and there’s a simple reason for it. Over the years, on different sites that allow posts, regardless of the subject matter that the site caters to, there’s always about 10-20 “regulars” that always post, become friends “off the site” and get each other’s backs “on the site,” which is why the “thumbs down” nonsense is really irrelevant in this particular instance and in general where such mentalities dominate. It’s really like like a little high school “clique” of regulars that get each other’s backs and it’s sad that on a site such as this one, where the relevance should be in the content of the post itself, specifically in regard to fighting here, this juvenile attitude supersedes that and often dominates. The fact that four days after the fights, numerous of my comments are still “hot debates” should be pretty much indicative of the fact that the content of the posts is relevant in and of itself, and not because one person took personal offense to something that was not directed at anyone in particular, least of all this particular individual, but just food for thought for people who enjoy the website. It’s this exact reason that a lot of people don’t even post comments on these types of sites, because of the “clique” mentality that dominates among the “regulars,” which is a pretty sad fact, because a lot of people probably have interesting and relevant thoughts to share, but don’t because of the fact that they’re not part of the “group of friends/regulars” that dominate the comments, attitudes and opinions on the site. And when you take into account that on a site such as this, where the comments are “judged” by other members with a “thumbs up” or “thumbs down” it’s just really unfortunate that the aforementioned high-school-like clique mentality dominates, rather than the content of the post and it’s relevance to the subject being discussed. The effect, as already mentioned, is that a lot of people who might have interesting and relevant opinions don’t even bother expressing them, because one idiot on the site bands up with his buddies because he took something “personally” for no reason other than his own issues, insecurities and need to feel like he’s part of a group that has his back, and uses that childish clique mentality to devalue a post based on the site’s “judging system” where it’s really both uncalled for and even more importantly, totally irrelevant, because the topic being discussed has become personal, which really defies the whole point of being able to give a thumbs up or thumbs down to someone’s comment to begin with. Nobody on any of these sites needs to be a “champion” for the other people on the site. Let people express their own opinions freely, even though they’re not part of the “site-clique.”

    That being noted, you can “thumbs down” this post or any of my other posts as much as you want, but the same mentality that unfortunately dominates this site as well as many others has been “outed” if you will, so it really makes no difference.

    And just for the record, anyone who takes the time to read the aforementioned dialogue, will pretty much clearly see that YOU GOT SERVED. BADLY. Oh and one more thing, at the time, after you referenced (or implied, anyway) that you own a gym and made that idiotic comment that “Look buddy, nobody gets a free pass for that crap, NOBODY! This wouldn’t fly in my gym…” I was trying to think of who you sounded like. It finally came to me….you remember “Rex” from “Napoleon Dynamite”….and his “Rex-kwon-do?” …..yeah, that’s the dude. With his MC Hammer pants and and gay little tank top. That’s the vision that you pretty much constructed for yourself with that one….nice job buddy haha!!!!

    Thumbs down all you want guys. The point’s been made. Holla.

    LS

  • moosebaby02 says:

    This post is specifically directed at the douche-bag who commented on my prior posts the other day after the Silva fight….funny that you know who you are, right? You can “thumbs-down” my posts as much as you want…..doesn’t mean that they’re not accurate. At the time, I was having a completely respectful dialogue with Hindsightfuk that was both mutually considerate and enjoyable to engage in. I’ve been a fan of this website for probably four or five years, but never posted anything and there’s a simple reason for it. Over the years, on different sites that allow posts, regardless of the subject matter that the site caters to, there’s always about 10-20 “regulars” that always post, become friends “off the site” and get each other’s backs “on the site,” which is why the “thumbs down” nonsense is really irrelevant in this particular instance and in general where such mentalities dominate. It’s really like like a little high school “clique” of regulars that get each other’s backs and it’s sad that on a site such as this one, where the relevance should be in the content of the post itself, specifically in regard to fighting here, this juvenile attitude supersedes that and often dominates. The fact that four days after the fights, numerous of my comments are still “hot debates” should be pretty much indicative of the fact that the content of the posts is relevant in and of itself, and not because one person took personal offense to something that was not directed at anyone in particular, least of all this particular individual, but just food for thought for people who enjoy the website. It’s this exact reason that a lot of people don’t even post comments on these types of sites, because of the “clique” mentality that dominates among the “regulars,” which is a pretty sad fact, because a lot of people probably have interesting and relevant thoughts to share, but don’t because of the fact that they’re not part of the “group of friends/regulars” that dominate the comments, attitudes and opinions on the site. And when you take into account that on a site such as this, where the comments are “judged” by other members with a “thumbs up” or “thumbs down” it’s just really unfortunate that the aforementioned high-school-like clique mentality dominates, rather than the content of the post and it’s relevance to the subject being discussed. The effect, as already mentioned, is that a lot of people who might have interesting and relevant opinions don’t even bother expressing them, because one idiot on the site bands up with his buddies because he took something “personally” for no reason other than his own issues, insecurities and need to feel like he’s part of a group that has his back, and uses that childish clique mentality to devalue a post based on the site’s “judging system” where it’s really both uncalled for and even more importantly, totally irrelevant, because the topic being discussed has become personal, which really defies the whole point of being able to give a thumbs up or thumbs down to someone’s comment to begin with. Nobody on any of these sites needs to be a “champion” for the other people on the site. Let people express their own opinions freely, even though they’re not part of the “site-clique.” That being noted, you can “thumbs down” this post or any of my other posts as much as you want, but the same mentality that unfortunately dominates this site as well as many others has been “outed” if you will, so it really makes no difference.And just for the record, anyone who takes the time to read the aforementioned dialogue, will pretty much clearly see that YOU GOT SERVED. BADLY. Oh and one more thing, at the time, after you referenced (or implied, anyway) that you own a gym and made that idiotic comment that “Look buddy, nobody gets a free pass for that crap, NOBODY! This wouldn’t fly in my gym…” I was trying to think of who you sounded like. It finally came to me….you remember “Rex” from “Napoleon Dynamite”….and his “Rex-kwon-do?” …..yeah, that’s the dude. With his MC Hammer pants and and gay little tank top. That’s the vision that you pretty much constructed for yourself with that one….nice job buddy haha!!!! Thumbs down all you want guys. The point’s been made. Holla. LS  (Quote)

    well thank you for being so courious and stepping out and “BRAVELY” posted your comments even if you felt might get some thumbs down. Your a credit to the communty and truly someone to look up too.
    by the way i gave you thumbs up on you post only cause you put it together nicnely and i agreed with some of you points as i agreed with some of the points that rebuteled you.
    but this self serving pat my own self back post of yours just shows who really got served. I give you thumbs down cause this post this time has nothing to do with nothing.

  • moosebaby02 says:

    sorry for the spelling. late for work

  • liquid_shovel says:

    I appreciate the opinion and the honesty man. And thank you for being the first person to step up and address a common issue on these sites. As I said, it’s not about thumbs up/ thumbs down as much as it is about the content of the post and relevance to the issues. Whether I agree or disagree with someone’s opinion, I respect their right to have it and certainly wouldn’t lambaste what a member said for any personal reasons or offenses. It’s a public forum. Freedom of speech should always be respected, but there’s never any reason to make anything personal on a site such as this. So again, thanks for the honesty, integrity and opinion…..thumbs down or not….I appreciate it. And don’t sweat any spelling mistakes…..I’m usually late myself bro!! Peace.

  • liquid_shovel says:

    Moosebaby02

    One last thing. I do agree with you that my last post was self serving…..TO A DEGREE. But the sarcastic jokes and allusions to “Napoleon Dynamite” and “South Park” aside, I have to disagree that, “this post this time has nothing to do with nothing.” I’m not going to entirely rehash the main point of the post, but I think I pretty articulately laid out the “clique” problem and subsequent effects they have on sites such as this one, especially where comments can be judged by people who take things personally when that’s not the intent of the “thumbs up/down” grading system, if you will. It should be based on the merit of what it presented in the post. That’s the main point I addressed in my last post, which, in my opinion, is not “nothing to do with nothing.” Granted there were some wisecracks made, but that should not detract from the main essential point of what is being said. So on that one issue, I respectfully disagree. Thanks for taking the time to give your opinion on this. All the best.

    LS

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