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Mr. St. Pierre’s Neighborhood

This weekend was a great one for the UFC, their first trip into the 300+ movie theaters across the country seemed to be a boon for business and in the main event we got to see just how amazing Georges St. Pierre really is as he completely stifled Dan Hardy from the beginning of round one all the way to the final bell. But the question that haunts a fan like me, what is next for GSP? Looking at the top welterweight fighters in the world, GSP has beaten all of them, except Paul Daley, who is a clone of Dan Hardy (and no that is not a English joke) and would most likely be stuffed into the corner of the cage and also be unable to return fire on GSP much like the fight this weekend.

On Saturday night Jon Fitch was on the grind with a win over “Killa B” Ben Saunders that, while was not that exciting, was certainly a technical display of what Jon is extremely good at. The problem is that another fight between Fitch and GSP would be also as “technical” and not very fan friendly which is exactly why Dana wasn’t quick to grant that at the post-fight press conference. In fact, Dana was more interested in goading Jon into fighting Koscheck in a # 1 contender’s match, to which Jon responded “that fight would take place at our gym behind closed doors.”

The other scenario that has been floated around since this weekend was that The Ultimate Fighter 12 would be coached by Koscheck and “Semtex” Paul Daley for a shot at GSP. The problem is that while the fights between Fitch and Koscheck or Daley and Koscheck would be fun for MMA fans because either two teammates fighting each other and what that opens up for matches does it for you, or seeing if Paul’s hands can defeat Josh’s takedowns does, but the end game would be GSP beating all three men.

So what is next for GSP? Does he move up a weight class after this next defense for the Anderson Silva superfight? Is there a third match with Bj Penn? If so why? There is no doubt that George is one of the best if not the best in mixed martial arts when you look at his list of victims and his 20-2 record and as impressive as his performance on was Saturday, as a fan I look forward to seeing more competitive match-ups for George. I mean when you see a fight like the Carwin vs. Mir fight and then Brock steps in the cage to face off against Shane, I get goose bumps. That is because seeing Doomsday and the Incredible Hulk square off in a cage in July is great for business and has zero chance at being boring.

Fans have made MMA what it is today, their debates, videos, blogs, and most importantly their hard earned dollars and I appreciate George’s apology on Saturday night because he knows that the key to being a fan favorite is finishing the fight. And while finishing has different meanings to different people I think it is a universal truth that we enjoy his wins over Serra and Hughes verses his wins over Fitch and Koscheck. 2010 is going to be a brilliant year for MMA and the UFC and it would be great to see George back in the cage taking on guys that could test him. The only problem, George gets better every time he steps in the cage and there aren’t many humans that are in the same neighborhood, let alone share the same address as GSP.

18 COMMENTS
  • Guthookd says:

    Good job Eric. I like this type of well thought and concise article so much better than a personal rant of 15 paragraphs, even if it does cover the exact same issue. I’m glad you didn’t see the need to call his superior grappling skills boring either, with grappling being the cornerstone of MMA.

    If he can beat them all so easily though, I don’t see why they can’t all get a shot. Good business, bad business….no matter….GSP has so many casual fans (men and women alike) it will sell. I know I’ll buy it.

  • Rece Rock says:

    What’s next for GSP?? How about more commercials more endorsement deals and more one sided match -ups… but at the end of the day that’s not his fault or problem. GSP will continue to evolve and the better he gets the more the fans will be desperate for a better match up.

  • blue says:

    GSP needs to continue to dominate, period. Eventually someone will rise up, challenge him and when this happens it will be a historical fight. Until then, those who appreciate GSP’s style can continue to appreciate it.

    A lot of people blew off the Tyson-Douglas fight as a snoozer because Tyson was so dominant. And those who missed it, missed out on a historical night.

  • redwire says:

    No no no. Wins mean nothing. GSP is boring. He needs to move up a weight class, otherwise he is irrelevant. He has no heart, and a glass jaw. If he doesn’t knock out the next six guys in a row, then he’s the worst fighter ever.

    Sorry. I was on Sherdog before this, and the stupidity seems to have been contagious. I’m better now.

  • Dufresne says:

    He has a glass jaw? Since when did that happen? Yeah he got TKO’d by Serra, but if you didn’t notice, the shot that did the most damage landed behind the ear and that will scramble anyone’s balance. Throw in the huge number of follow up shots (none of which actually KO’d him btw) and yeah, he got TKO’d. Not KO’d, TKO’d. Once. In one fight. Against a guy known for having heavy hands.

    Has no heart? His only losses are in championship bouts, the first one came with literally 1 second left in the first round against arguably the most dominant WW champ in UFC history. The second came to Serra. In case you’re wondering, he came back and destroyed them both (Matt Hughes twice). How’s that for freaking heart. Or maybe you’d like to consider him pulling a groin muscle and continuing to dominate the fight. If that’s never happened to you, it hurts like hell. Seriously. It’s on my list right behind broken ribs. That’s heart.

    Ahhhhhhh, just read the last part of your comment. Sherdog is only slightly better than mmajunkie when it comes to trolls and stupidity, but that’s like saying that eating arsenic is better for you than eating cyanide. Sorry for the rant, but the haters always come out after a decision win.
    Still, made my point I believe, and maybe, just maybe!, it’ll stifle the other monkeys from insulting GSP for winning dominantly so often.

  • Nice post Dufrense, very well typed.

    I say it again. Unified Belts. StrikeForce, UFC, Bellator ect. .. need to start fight negotiations between promotions. Its tough to say that the best fighter in the world is in the UFC when they haven’t fought any other “World Champoins” out there period.

  • blue says:

    I say it again. Unified Belts. StrikeForce, UFC, Bellator ect. .. need to start fight negotiations between promotions. Its tough to say that the best fighter in the world is in the UFC when they haven’t fought any other “World Champoins” out there period.  (Quote)

    I could not think of a worst case scenario for MMA. These ‘fight negotiations’ would go on for 8 to 24 months and that would may be the best case scenerio if the fights would actually be agreed upon.

    Let’s play hypothetical regarding what these negotiations would entail in a fantasy world of Fedor vs Brock:

    1) What each fighter will get paid. Brock and Fedor both would have their own perceived value on what their compensation should be; show amount, win amount, percent of PPVs so on and and God knows what else. Clearly Brock would put an emphasis on his ‘popularity’ and should be compensated apropriately. Fedor would put an emphasis on his consensus #1 ranking and should be compensated apropriately.

    2) What cut each promotion should get. The UFC, clearly having an high opinion of their role and impact would insist on getting a significant larger cut than M-1. M-1, who I do believe are ‘crazy Russians’ would want whatever cut they deem as far for representing the #1 fighter.

    3) If the scenario was Strikeforce, then CBS\Showtime would probably want some input on who should broadcast the fight, being they are contractually bond to Strikeforce.

    4) Maybe M-1 wants Gegard to fight on the card, then his cut of the revenue would also have to be negotiated.

    I am still bitter about the concept of co-promotions from the early 90s which prevented a fight between Holyfield (Showtime) and Tyson (HBO).

    2) What each promotion

  • Angry Mike says:

    GSP is so dominat at 170 that he needs match ups in higher weight classes for a challenge. Lots of intriguing fights at 185. ‘Wand, for example.

  • Kuch says:

    GSP is just one person, yet people seem to want to place a ton of pressure on him to move to another weight class for a “challenge”. Why isn’t there a call for some of the supposed welterweight “contenders” to start adapting their training and fight strategies to beat him? There are more competitors than there are champions, so I’d say the onus is on them.

    Sorry, but if the strategy is to wait for GSP to move on because there are no credible challengers, then the next person to hold the welterweight strap can’t be considered a true champion; that person just waited until the real champion got bored.

  • I could not think of a worst case scenario for MMA. These ‘fight negotiations’ would go on for 8 to 24 months and that would may be the best case scenerio if the fights would actually be agreed upon.

    Let’s play hypothetical regarding what these negotiations would entail in a fantasy world of Fedor vs Brock:

    1) What each fighter will get paid. Brock and Fedor both would have their own perceived value on what their compensation should be; show amount, win amount, percent of PPVs so on and and God knows what else. Clearly Brock would put an emphasis on his ‘popularity’ and should be compensated apropriately. Fedor would put an emphasis on his consensus #1 ranking and should be compensated apropriately.

    2) What cut each promotion should get. The UFC, clearly having an high opinion of their role and impact would insist on getting a significant larger cut than M-1. M-1, who I do believe are ‘crazy Russians’ would want whatever cut they deem as far for representing the #1 fighter.

    3) If the scenario was Strikeforce, then CBS\Showtime would probably want some input on who should broadcast the fight, being they are contractually bond to Strikeforce.

    4) Maybe M-1 wants Gegard to fight on the card, then his cut of the revenue would also have to be negotiated.

    I am still bitter about the concept of co-promotions from the early 90s which prevented a fight between Holyfield (Showtime) and Tyson (HBO).

    1. The fighters from other ORGs don’t fight each other anyways so aren’t you bitter about that. Koschek and Fitch don’t fight because they train together, I am bitter about that. Silva won’t fight Machida because they train together = I am bitter about that.

    2. There is nothing different about MMA and boxing when it comes to business. Manny Pacquiao fights 1 or 2 times a year like most MMA fighers. In very rare cases do fighters fight 3 times a year.

    3. For example, Who out there doesn’t want to see fights between Jakes Shields and some of the fighters in the UFC or Gegard vs Quinton Rampage or Showgun, Melendez vs BJ or Franky Edgar ext..

    4. You aren’t the business mind doing the negotiations so let them figure it out. Put your worries aside and demand fights. Thats what fans are suppose to do….DEMAND FIGHTS.

    The bottom line is that as fans and yes I do speak for the masses because countless times I have read debates about other fighters from other ORGs fighting guys from the UFC and how they would compare or wouldn’t compare. The UFC doesn’t have the money to pay all the top guys in the world under their pay roll. LETS END THE DEBATE and start talks between other ORGs out there. If terms can’t come together then there are other fights. Look at what happend when Manny and Mayweather didn’t happen..Clottey jumped in = no problem booking fights.

  • bigbadjohn says:

    Good article. BUT ITS GEORGES NOT GEORGE. HES FRENCH-CANADIAN! AND one of the best MMA fighters on the planet, so GET IT RIGHT

  • blue says:

    I’ll just say the biggest reason I don’t follow boxing any more is because they are dependent on co-promoting fights. And one of the biggest reasons I am a fan of the UFC is because they have many fighters under promotional brand. It is just my opinion, but I think the pros of singular dominant promotion far away the pros of a fight World of many promotions and co-promoted events.

  • Genesis says:

    For my geek side it would be more like Juggernaut fighting the Hulk.

    Also, seeing GSP move up a weight class could really change his whole fight game for the better. There would be more pressure to finish the fight.

    I would love to see him fight Wanderlei, Okami, Anderson, hell even Belcher.

  • redwire says:

    He has a glass jaw? Since when did that happen? Yeah he got TKO’d by Serra, but if you didn’t notice, the shot that did the most damage landed behind the ear and that will scramble anyone’s balance. Throw in the huge number of follow up shots (none of which actually KO’d him btw) and yeah, he got TKO’d. Not KO’d, TKO’d. Once. In one fight. Against a guy known for having heavy hands.
    Has no heart? His only losses are in championship bouts, the first one came with literally 1 second left in the first round against arguably the most dominant WW champ in UFC history. The second came to Serra. In case you’re wondering, he came back and destroyed them both (Matt Hughes twice). How’s that for freaking heart. Or maybe you’d like to consider him pulling a groin muscle and continuing to dominate the fight. If that’s never happened to you, it hurts like hell. Seriously. It’s on my list right behind broken ribs. That’s heart.
    Ahhhhhhh, just read the last part of your comment. Sherdog is only slightly better than mmajunkie when it comes to trolls and stupidity, but that’s like saying that eating arsenic is better for you than eating cyanide. Sorry for the rant, but the haters always come out after a decision win.
    Still, made my point I believe, and maybe, just maybe!,it’ll stifle the other monkeys from insulting GSP for winning dominantly so often.  

    Hey – good stuff Dufresne. I plan on cutting and pasting this verbatim all over Sherdog :-)

  • danw84 says:

    He always talks about how he’s a “martial artist.” Shouldn’t that imply that it is on HIM to seek out the next greatest challenge, not sit there and wait for it to find him?

    He should move up to 185lbs if he wants a challenge, or I guess he could challenge himself to finish a fight…

  • Mulletsoldier says:

    This was a far, far better article than Cory Brady’s short-sighted and privileged rant about the status of GSP’s wins. Kudos.

  • This was a far, far better article than Cory Brady’s short-sighted and privileged rant about the status of GSP’s wins. Kudos.  (Quote)

    What rant are you referring to?

  • Guthookd says:

    What rant are you referring to?  (Quote)

    I think he’s talking about this one >So You Want To Be A Champion: Jon Fitch and Josh Koscheck on a collision course<

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