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Say It Aint So: Overeem vs. Rogers for Strikeforce heavyweight crown?

Photo by Esther Lin/Strikeforce

Strikerforce color commentator Mauro Ranallo recently went on record during an episode of The Fight Show stating that he had inside information that says an upcoming showdown between AWOL Strikeforce heavyweight title holder Alistair Overeem and Brett Rogers will in fact be for the promotion’s championship.

As of right now nothing has been confirmed by Strikeforce in regards to the bout being for the title.

The report comes as a bit of a shock considering the fact that Rogers would be coming off of a TKO defeat suffered at the hands of Fedor Emelianenko to challenge for the championship, while Fedor is currently expected to face off with Fabricio Werdum at the same event which is likely for May.

Overeem hasn’t defended his Strikeforce title in well over two years since obtaining the belt with a TKO over Paul Buentello in November of 2007.

46 COMMENTS
  • fanoftna33 says:

    Before I become to outraged by this I will wait until it is offically announced as a title fight, although Mauro is a very good source.

  • Yourdaddydevilandlord says:

    This comes up as I type on another thread about Fedor and M-1 being mobbed up! Maybe Coker is smarter than I gave him credit for and behind the scenes he is actually standing up to those clowns for once. In one swift blow he makes Overrated defend his belt and doesn’t give Fedor and co. a chance to take the belt to Russia. He knows he will be bent over again if Fedor is champ and he doesn’t want that to happen. I’d be willing to bet he sat down with Dana White and Dana said whatever happens between us competing, whatever, but don’t let your belt be controlled by these criminals, and it looks like he listened. About time you took back the reigns of your company there Scott, now lets all root for Brett Rogers who was looking pretty good against Fedor until the near decapitation. I think he will punk Alistar without his magic knockout juice. Send him back to Japan with his tail between his legs and a syringe in his ass.

  • hindsightufuk says:

    odd

  • fetussandwich says:

    This wouldn’t even be just a step in the wrong direction for all the progress Strikeforce has made as an org. This would be a fucking airport escalator.

  • xtreme_machine says:

    Yourdaddydevilandlord: Send him back to Japan with his tail between his legs and a syringe in his ass.  

    LOL

  • Angry Mike says:

    From the outside there’s no way to know what the hell’s going on. There are multiple reasons why SF or the various fighters might plant a story like this. We’ll just have to wait and see.

  • Yourdaddydevilandlord says:

    From a pure “who’s fought who and won” standpoint yeah, it would be wrong, but Strikeforce desperately wants Rogers as champ, or at least anybody but Overeem and Fedor. They both just come with too many problems. I’m telling you, Fedor not being in the UFC isn’t because Dana was being difficult, it was because of M-1, just ask Mousasi. Coker wants nothing to do with either of them anymore, and I’m sure his feelings about Overeem aren’t far behind in the rage category. He knows they are both making him look like a joke and he is just looking for a way out of the situation. Scott Coker right now is the BIGGEST Brett Rogers fan on the planet right now, just surpassing Brett’s Mom.

  • Rece Rock says:

    IF they have issues with Overeem… STRIP HIM OF THE BELT.

    IF they have issues with Fedor…RELEASE HIM OF HIS CONTRACTUAL OBLIGATIONS.

    Scott Cokers way out of the situation is to grow balls and send ppl packing and set a precedent of how he wants to conduct business.

    I really don’t care what the reasons are it’s just pointless and sends a message of confusion to the fans of SF.

  • Rece Rock says:

    I said it many times before…

    It’s only a matter of time that Bellator Fighting Championships will be the #2 promotion.

    And unlike SF they will stand the test of time due to there strategic business development and there ability to create there own path in the world of MMA not reuse the same ole’ blue print with out the resources to make it work.

  • Jstew3785 says:

    You and me both Rece Rock. I couldn’t agree more with you

  • Rich S. says:

    As stupid as this is, it’s kind of smart..

    Alistair will be back fighting in America and a Cage for the first time in a long time, while Brett just came off a good showing against the best of the best..

    Brett will probably end up winning.. somehow..

    And then they get to make the rematch of “the biggest heavyweight fight in the history of MMA”, Brett Rogers vs. Fedor Emelianenko 2, 5 rounds for the Heavyweight Title..

  • xtreme_machine says:

    Rece Rock: IF they have issues with Overeem… STRIP HIM OF THE BELT.IF they have issues with Fedor…RELEASE HIM OF HIS CONTRACTUAL OBLIGATIONS..  

    You cant strip Overeem because it would make your organization look weak by stripping your champion of his belt

    also they cant let Fedor go NOW because if the do CBS would drop them

    but after they establish a good relationship with CBS then they can drop Fedor (if the like)

  • Rece Rock says:

    Xtreme Machine:

    The Org. looks weak becasue he hasn’t defended his belt EVER and that’s 2 1/2 years ago!

    CBS would not drop them… Why because of a fighter the US public barely knows and that barely speaks any english- yea he’s a prime time TV dream!?

    Think about it.

  • xtreme_machine says:

    Rece Rock:

    who is the “prime time TV dream!”

    r u talking about Fedor or Overeem

    because if it is Fedor then hell yeah just look at the ratings he pull for the main-event
    and not only on a national level but on a global level because they were HUGE

  • Rece Rock says:

    Rich S. – “…Brett will probably end up winning.. somehow”

    Doubt it. Overeem may be a juice head and a Douche but he’s got more skill than Brett Rogers has .

  • Rece Rock says:

    xtreme_machine…

    I’m talking about Fedor and I’m not saying he didn’t pull in ratings, I’m saying CBS would not drop SF for one fighter leaving especially a Fighter whom can’t do interviews in english and has like next to no prior fight footage available to hype him up….

    FYI: UFC owns all Fedors Pride Footage…so CBS/ SF have his previous SF fights and some random footage of him training… theres no background footage on this guy for them to use to hype the fights.

    I’m sure CBS isn’t just in this for Fedor alone

  • inkythewinky says:

    at first i was like wtf, but now i understand, coker is a smart dude

  • Rece Rock says:

    brown here…
    Green here…
    & Clear there…
    Scott Coker sorts glass that’s his job,
    don’t throw him away.

    ARC: the Association for Retarded Cokers

  • Rich S. says:

    Yeah Rece, Alistair is more skilled, but does that always decide the winner of a fight?
    One wild hook from Rogers can erase all of Alistair’s skill in the blink of an eye..

  • Rece Rock says:

    Yeah I hear yea rich s. –

    I’m just saying we shouldn’t discount overeems skills because posters are already writing overeem off like he’s going to lose when on paper this fight is his to win…

    But I do agree with your point

  • Guthookd says:

    Well, the Strikeforce HW belt was already a joke…so why not make it even funnier.

    I hope the fight is competitive, at least.

  • Rich S. says:

    I forgot to mention, not only would having Brett as champion (If he wins) be good for a rematch with Fedor, but it would mean the fact that there IS A HEAVYWEIGHT CHAMPIONSHIP BELT THAT HAS SOME SMALL MORSEL OF MEANING.. and gets defended semi-often..

  • EpicBeardMan says:

    i love strikeforce but they fail in this situation simply because they let roidereem keep the belt when they should of stripped it from him this whole time hes been overseas avoiding US competition for some reason (hmmm)

    Fedor v Rogers should of been the interim HW title fight back in November and AO vs rogers should be a title eliminator match AT BEST. winner would get the victor of fedor vs werdum which is the true title match.

  • LiverPunch says:

    Randy has fought for belts at least 3 or 4 times after coming off a loss (or 2!). So cry me a river. At least Strikeforce has 2 top 10 guys fighting for the belt and both have faced multiple top 10 fighters unlike Carwin and Hardy. All this outrage is a little much. Think of the possible results 1) Rogers wins and a huge charasmatic AMERICAN has the belt and 2) Overeem wins and is legitimised as champ who now must defend his belt against the winner of 2 other top 10 fighters Fedor and Werdum, oh and ther is that former world no.2 and UFC champ Arlovski now waiting in the wings. Wow I’m so upset that I have to watch all these top HWs fights. Boo hoo.
    I’m looking forward to this fight and so will all of you I bet. Then there is other fights to look forward to like Overeem vs Arlovski.

  • LiverPunch says:

    Just thought I would add that everyone (including me) has been complaining that Overeem hasn’t defended his belt and now that he is you are complaining about who it is against. Remembering Fedor is to fight Werdum next, who would you have Overeem fight for the belt instead?. I’ll tell you, a guy whois popular is top 10, is next in rankings, has only 1 loss against the world p4p best and is available.
    Makes perfect sense to me. Would you rather Overeem didn’t fight for the belt yet?.

  • LiverPunch says:

    Yes it is a triple post.
    But just to add that when Fedor vs Wedum was changed to may everyone complained and put SF down saying how stupid they are and so on. Now the April card has 3 title fights and the May card looks like it will have 2 top 10 HW clashes at least. Again, cry me a river.
    I am very happy that SF is delivering multiple top 10 clashes on multiple cards.

  • Carvaggio says:

    Wow, people on here (& the other UFC er, i mean, MMA boards) sure seem to know a helluva lot about M1’s dealings with Coker & White.
    First Mousasi didn’t get the “lifetime” contract like Fedor so he left. Second, why is it that Dana White & the UFC can try to make as much cash off of fighters & barely anyone says a word but when a foreign company does it there’s some problem with it?
    Yeah M1 seems to play hardball (just like all of the sports agents do for other sport’s athletes) but at the end of the day the head guys are making the most money so why can’t the fighters cash in.

    Lastly, if the UFC’s deal, which the UFC propaganda machine said was the best ever, was in fact the best for Fedor – M1 & Fedor would’ve taken it…

    (& before some fucktards start talking about M1 & co-promoting & destroying orgs save your time because i’ve heard it all before…)

  • Sans_Peur says:

    Carvaggio: Wow, people on here (& the other UFC er, i mean, MMA boards) sure seem to know a helluva lot about M1’s dealings with Coker & White.
    First Mousasi didn’t get the “lifetime” contract like Fedor so he left.Second, why is it that Dana White & the UFC can try to make as much cash off of fighters & barely anyone says a word but when a foreign company does it there’s some problem with it?
    Yeah M1 seems to play hardball (just like all of the sports agents do for other sport’s athletes) but at the end of the day the head guys are making the most money so why can’t the fighters cash in.Lastly, if the UFC’s deal, which the UFC propaganda machine said was the best ever, was in fact the best for Fedor – M1 & Fedor would’ve taken it…(& before some fucktards start talking about M1 & co-promoting & destroying orgs save your time because i’ve heard it all before…)  

    If you’ve heard it before, then, I won’t waste your time refuting a stance that you know is weak at best. It doesn’t fit the Zuffa business model to co-promote, and I for one applaud them for sticking to their guns. Multiple news outlets have made it fairly clear that the issue between Zuffa and M-1 wasn’t financial, it was regarding the co-promotion stipulation. So yes, most of us do know something about the dealings between the American orgs and M-1… it’s called the press, buddy, so have a Coke and a smile and chill out.

    As for Mousasi not getting a “lifetime” contract, well, he doesn’t co-own the company, so why should he?

    Frankly, I think SF got caught in a catch 22 here with their heavyweights (by not stripping Overeem of the belt like a year ago) and are now trying to cut their losses and move on. I wish them luck – in a year, most of us will forget that we ever posted on this thread, but if Coker is able to push past this and keep running a profitable business, he’s the one who wins at the end of the day regardless of who has the strap.

  • Carvaggio says:

    Sans_Peur:
    If you’ve heard it before, then, I won’t waste your time refuting a stance that you know is weak at best. It doesn’t fit the Zuffa business model to co-promote, and I for one applaud them for sticking to their guns. Multiple news outlets have made it fairly clear that the issue between Zuffa and M-1 wasn’t financial, it was regarding the co-promotion stipulation. So yes, most of us do know something about the dealings between the American orgs and M-1… it’s called the press, buddy, so have a Coke and a smile and chill out.As for Mousasi not getting a “lifetime” contract, well, he doesn’t co-own the company, so why should he?Frankly, I think SF got caught in a catch 22 here with their heavyweights (by not stripping Overeem of the belt like a year ago) and are now trying to cut their losses and move on. I wish them luck – in a year, most of us will forget that we ever posted on this thread, but if Coker is able to push past this and keep running a profitable business, he’s the one who wins at the end of the day regardless of who has the strap.  

    what is weak is the way you people keep drinking the ufc/dana/iole coolaid about the co-promoting deal. it’s not about co-promoting, it’s about the rights to fights (which is the way fedor/M1 makes most of their money selling them to Japan/eastern europe/russian markets) UFC won’t relinquish the rights so end of story.

    the hatred towards M1 is just stupid & misdirected as you stated SF’s problem has more to do with not taking a hard stance regarding Ubereem’s title defense.
    but i’m sure you know a lot about it because you read the “press” huh, “buddy”?…

  • Makington says:

    You’re just as likely to be wrong Carvaggio as Sans Peur is. Each side of the press tells a different story. UFC says it’s 100% M1’s fault, and M1 says it’s all cause of the UFC.

    We’re never going to know the ‘actual’ story so fuck it, I just want to see good fights, and this one fits my bill whether or not Overeem can pass a drug test or how Brett doesn’t deserve the shot.

    I’m excited for this fight so I’m not going to let myself get caught in all the behind the scenes bullcrap. I just want this fight to go over problem-free.

  • Carvaggio says:

    Makington: You’re just as likely to be wrong Carvaggio as Sans Peur is.Each side of the press tells a different story. UFC says it’s 100% M1’s fault, and M1 says it’s all cause of the UFC.We’re never going to know the ‘actual’ story so fuck it, I just want to see good fights, and this one fits my bill whether or not Overeem can pass a drug test or how Brett doesn’t deserve the shot.I’m excited for this fight so I’m not going to let myself get caught in all the behind the scenes bullcrap. I just want this fight to go over problem-free.  

    you should not be so lazy my friend & read my first comment before commenting yourself. i don’t care about M1 or the ufc i was just stating how people judge M1 for playing hardball but not the UFC & some lame fuck called my reasoning weak because he reads the “press. i could give a shit about any of these companies but the hypocrisy gets a little much.

  • cdrg says:

    what do you mean, it’l be good having rogers as a chanp, and if he wins the belt would have some meaning! it would make no sense because fedor deserves that title shot. and the belt would have no meaning because rogers just came from a ko loss to the man that deserves the the belt. but rogers moves up to title shot!?
    If this is the way that SF wants to work their org. then they wont be here for long and that belt will always be a joke until the real contender has it or at least fights for it (Before Rogers)
    just b/c SF(stupid fucks) doesn’t like a fighter, their not going to give him what he deserves?
    and it doesn’t matter that the UFC has control of fedors pride videos, the world already knows who he is. the proof is in the #s that they pulled with fedors debut!

  • cdrg says:

    by the way Liverpunch, rogers is no charasmatic, hes anoying, cocky, and runs his mouth way too much. but i guess its because hes american that they ignore the fact that he just lost, and fedor is not! when it is obvious who should have rogers’s spot.

  • cdrg says:

    yes, this is a triple post too, liverpunch, i disagree with you again, rogers has fought 2 top fighters. he got lucky against Arlovski because i am sure that he wouldn’t win again and def not in that fashion, and the other one is Fedor who almost took his head off. and you say rogers is top 10!
    And yes i would rather Overeem not fight, then to have him defend the titl against someone who doesnt deserve it.
    it should be Fedor vs Overeem and Fabricio vs Rogers and the winer of that one fight the winer of Fedor/Overrem

  • Guthookd says:

    LiverPunch: Yes it is a triple post.But just to add that when Fedor vs Wedum was changed to may everyone complained and put SF down saying how stupid they are and so on. Now the April card has 3 title fights and the May card looks like it will have 2 top 10 HW clashes at least. Again, cry me a river.I am very happy that SF is delivering multiple top 10 clashes on multiple cards.  (Quote)

    Seriously…stop saying that Rogers is top 10. He is not.

    Coker must be your father or something.

  • Jstew3785 says:

    This just in… Big Nog will be fighting Brock Lesnar for the HW title in July. Not really, but it makes just about as much sense as this

  • wifeinthong says:

    I cant wait for Fedor to fight Overeem- finally a credible fighter or Bret even though hes not top ten, M1 needs to go away from everyone including Fedor there a joke, the question keeps being asked why they shouldnt have the same respect that Us organazations like the UFC have – Respect is earned thats why, you dont walk into another guys house vertually an unknown and expect to be co promoting thank God Coker fianlly got balls to stand up to M1 – If UFC and Stykeforce ever did start or cont to co promote they would be eventully out of business, any half way decent business man knows this. For the sake of the fans I want to see both businesses thrive.

    M1 is nothing but a leach trying to ride the success of allready established organazations without bringing to the table any lagitimate fan base or real fighters besides Fedor. If fedor does not cont to regularly fight against top 5 then he himself can not maintain that 1 position if he loses once M1 is out of business – cant wait to stop hearing there name, they have brought nothing to the table for the fans Stykeforce UFC love them or hate them has brought some great fight and fighters thank you

  • thevamp says:

    Hard sell since Rogers just lost to Fedor, but…..Who know’s when Overeem will fight for Strikeforce again. As long as he’s fighting make him put the title on the line. Whover does beat him will no doubt be a more active champ.

  • twyg says:

    Listen we all know the Fedor should get this shot, but he isn’t so why cry about it. We all know the SF heavyweight strap is meaningless anyway, so if they want to call the Oveeream/Rogers fight a “title” fight then let them. Does anyone think it is going past three rounds, and that the other two rounds will produce a different winner then a three round fight? If your anwser is no then it doesn’t matter. It is a paper title devoid of any true meaning, and the person to thank for that is the gutless Scott Coker.

  • LiverPunch says:

    Yeah sorry Guthookd and cdrg i was taking a reference from nearly every top 10 ranking that I’ve seen. Get angry with me as if I decided it if you must but you are just making a fool of yourseves, perhaps you should look up top 10 rankings first. Personally I woud not have him ther but I wouldn’t have Carwin there either. So don’t complain to me, complain to every top 10 list that has him there, and that is the majority. I agree that Fedor deserves a title shot you fools and Werdum too, but that is not happening is it? and yes Rogers just lost but to the p4p best ever. Look up Randy’s career before you start accusing SF of being dumb. Randy lost directly before a title shot or title defense at least 4 times. Point is we don’t always get what we want and to say this is stupid when it the only and best option they have IS STUPID. If you don’t think Overeem should fight don’t watch it. I don’t think Maia, Carwin, Hardy or Edgar deserve title shots either but I understand why they get them. Did Lesnar deserve a title shot at 1-1 in the UFC? or is Dana a ” stupid f#ck”?

  • mu_shin says:

    If Overeem is going to fight in the US for Strikeforce, it should be for the title, even if it is against Brett Rogers. Thought Rogers handled himself well enough before he got knocked senseless by Emelianenko that he is at least a credible MMA fighter, whether or not you consider him a top ten heavyweight. At least there will be some movement in the SF heavyweight division, perhaps enough to bring about a true number one challenger match with Fedor at some later date, hopefully after Overeem, win or lose, silences the drug test questions, one way or the other.

  • cdrg says:

    OK liverpouch, I agree with you that Brock did no way in hell deserve a title shot when he got it, and im always saying shit about that, also I agree that Carwin is not a top 10 fighter and does not deserve the interum title shot that he is getting but Maia does deserve the shot hes getting simply because Belfort is injured and Sonnan just had a fight which if he hadent just had a fight i would still say that Maia deserves the title shot more than Sonnan. BUT the news is about SF not the UFC. for SF Overeem vs Rogers is not the best option they have, the best option is Fedor, so dont say that thats the best option that they have.
    OH and just because the UFC has done it, does that mean that its OK? NO, so why do it themselves?
    IF Brock got the shot he did is because the UFC did a smart financial move. like it or not, Brock had a huge fan base that was following him from the WWE. so that made sense, but who would rather see Rogers /Overeem instead of Fedor? only the Rogers fan and those who would rather see a hand down to an american b/c he is american instead a fight that made sense no matter where his from.

  • edub says:

    Carvaggio: (& before some fucktards start talking about M1 & co-promoting & destroying orgs save your time because i’ve heard it all before…)

    There obviously isn’t anything set in stone about the dealings of M1(or anything that will go to public record), but something should be said about there being “problems” with the last three companies they have co-promoted with.(Affliction, Elitexc, and now SF).

    I’m very anxious to see if Fedor and M1 back out of their stance that they want Overeem blood tested before he gets in the ring/cage with him.

    All signs point to Overeem winning this fight. He’s better everywhere the fight could go, he’s faster, and prescription aided or not he’s probably stronger. That being if Rogers catches him all bets are off. Overeem has been Kod before, and if Brett hits him clean I don’t see it being any different.

    Definately looking forward to seeing The Demolition man fighting with drug testing in place.

  • Niv says:

    edub I’ve read all of these comments and unless I missed it you are the only to mention that Fedor said he wants to fight Overeem, but only if he gets stringently tested for roids.

    All this M1, UFC crap is meaningless here, and the obvious is that Coker is looking for someone to take Overeem out and not embarrass SF by making it public he’s on juice. That really would be the only explanation for offering the title to Rogers, he has more than the right stuff to ko Overeem and get the title picture on its way to being straightened out in SF.

    Overeem is a talented beast and is capable of beating most, but he’s shown more than once that he’s susceptible to being ko’d when he fights high calibre fighters, Shogun x 2, Sergei Kharitonov, Anotonio Noguiera, Lidell etc. so I don’t think he’s the guy that Fedor would lose to if anyone yet.

  • LiverPunch says:

    I’m from New Zealand in case you were implying I’m American for a start and FEDOR IS NOT AVAILABLE HE IS FIGHTING WERDUM. There may also be other reasons why they can’t or wont fight. The next ranked fighter is Rogers. i would rather see Fedor fight him but he IS NOT!!!!!!!!!!!!.

  • Yourdaddydevilandlord says:

    Seriously, do you really want to see Fedor vs Werdum? I don’t understand the nuthuggin’ for Werdum. What, he beat bigfoot? He looked tired and flabby in his UFC stint, then he goes to the minors(yeah, I said it) and beats a midlevel up and comer and all of the sudden he is the guy who is going to beat Fedor? I’d rather see Fedor/Rogers 2, or Arlovski, or your mom. Either do Fedor/Overeem or just fold already. It is bad enough I can’t see the fights I want between guys working for competing companies, but now I can’t see the ones between guys in the same company. At least the UFC is a good deal of the way through my dream Heavyweight tourney scenario, with Cain/Nog, and Mir/Carwin coming up. I have confidence that I will see good fights there, not so much with Strikeforce.

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