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Chuck Liddell and Tito Ortiz to coach The Ultimate Fighter Season 11

chuckFormer friends, UFC light heavyweight champions and Octagon rivals Tito Ortiz and Chuck Liddell will be returning to The Ultimate Fighter house to lend their coaching hands during the eleventh season of the series set to air on Spike TV.

Ortiz will be appearing on the show as a coach for the second time on the heels of his recent defeat at the hands of Forrest Griffin at UFC 106, while Liddell will be returning to the show and the UFC from a hiatus that followed his TKO defeat to Mauricio “Shogun” Rua.

Liddell has been keeping himself busy during his time away from the Octagon with numerous media appearances including a stint on the hit television show “Dancing With The Stars”.

With the “Iceman” returning to The Ultimate Fighter alongside Tito to coach, it seems like a third match between the two is an inevitability.

34 COMMENTS
  • Dufresne says:

    I can’t wait for this next season, this is probably the only move they could have made that would restore my faith in the TUF tv show.

  • BigDave says:

    Finally I get to see the Iceman destroy Ortiz for the last time, I can’t wait.

  • gy614x says:

    Liddel will always be one of my favorites, as he sparked my interest in the sport a few years back, that being said…..i think he and tito are at the point where they can handle about 80% of their division, but probably wont make that last 20%, age catches up with everyone sadly…..but still words cant describe my excitement and im gonna say it now…..CHUCK BY TKO RD.2 BABY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • Makington says:

    This is it, the last fight for Chuck. If Chuck can’t beat Tito, then that has to be it. Tito’s style is tailor made to lose to Chuck. He doesn’t have the power that most little girls have to KO Chuck, and he doesn’t look like he’ll have the cardio. I don’t think anyone is really wanting this fight but I hope it will be good. Hopefully Chuck can go out on a high note and we can start saying good things about him again.

    I don’t know how much fireworks the fight will deliver however. I am hopeful about it, but we already saw the fight when they were both at their best, twice. Seeing it now that they’re both past their prime seems like it will be a step down. And I know Tito will try to be extra cocky about it, like it means something. Tito knows deep down that Chuck isn’t the same, and this is the only time he might have a chance. If Tito wins, he will brag like he beat Chuck at his prime, and claim he’s the #1p4p fighter. I really hope Chuck shuts him up a third time and ends his career in style.

  • moosebaby02 says:

    i knew Forest didnt want to do another tuff show.
    this one will make it a little more fun to watch except for the fact the tito will always in every show try to make it about him like always. Good to hear Chuck has the will and desire to be back but that could just be dana being a promoter. or both
    anyways cant wait

  • Rich S. says:

    Well this is a wonderful alternative to the possibility of GSP and Hardy being coaches..

    It’s a guaranteed victory for Chuck in the fight, and a way to keep him and Tito relevant..

    These guys could fight 1,000 more times and Tito would never win..
    When it comes down to it, Tito has 0 confidence when he’s in the ring with Liddell, and Tito is the only guy that Liddell is always 100% confident in fighting..

  • qat says:

    i wonder if chuck can bring some of the hot dancer women with him. :)

    i like that decision as well, better than any of the other rumors for the season.

  • Pajamashark says:

    I’m meh on Cheeto and Tuck coaching.

    I would have liked a much more serious return to actual fighting on the show, and not the emphasis on encouraging guys to win fans by drama. I hope Cheeto and Tuck see this as an opportunity to cement their legacies and age out gracefully. But both of these guys are now trying to be media stars and not fighters.

    If Tuck allows Cheeto to bait him into “coach drama” oh mi god they need to shut this shit down and bring back in a boring guy like GSP to establish credibility. Have him and Mat Hamill coach: “Season 12: No One Understands A Single Word the Coaches Are Saying.”

  • H3ro says:

    I don’t think I’ll be watching. This matchup does not peak my interest at all. Even the show needs to start fine tuning itself. I don’t think it’s much of a deal that they are fighting for the 3rd time. Both are at the end of their careers, so I see this bout as a retirement bout. Loser is out. If I see it that way, I guess it can be a bit interesting…lol. I’m confused.

  • danw84 says:

    Pajamashark: I’m meh on Cheeto and Tuck coaching.I would have liked a much more serious return to actual fighting on the show, and not the emphasis on encouraging guys to win fans by drama.I hope Cheeto and Tuck see this as an opportunity to cement their legacies and age out gracefully.But both of these guys are now trying to be media stars and not fighters.
    If Tuck allows Cheeto to bait him into “coach drama” oh mi god they need to shut this shit down and bring back in a boring guy like GSP to establish credibility.Have him and Mat Hamill coach: “Season 12: No One Understands A Single Word the Coaches Are Saying.”

    Cute nicknames for them. The fact you kept using them made everything you said sound childish and immature. Not to mention how blatantly biased you are.

    Sorry you don’t understand the purpose of TUF, but at least you gave a better option for next season’s coaches in your complaining. Wait…….

  • ndizzle says:

    tuf is all for show so i guess this makes it perfect coaches.

  • I for one am not a fan of this. The coach banter will be garbage as Tito tries to play his mental games and chuck reminds him that he gave Tito the beating of his life!!! Ok maybe this will be good for that. On another level I dont care to see this fight again because it’ll probably have the same ending. Maybe this time Chuck can get him in the first. Three fights ending each in rounds 1,2 and 3. That’s seriously the most interesting thing for me in this fight.
    I’ve never been a huge Tito fan and honestly not the biggest Chuck fan either. But if they produce some good fighters in this season it could make it all worth watching.

  • Ray Pist says:

    FINALLY A TUF THAT DOES MAKE SENSE

    We…well I as a fan…but I think most people are sick and tired of TUF delaying either a championship belt, or a top contender match for almost an entire year. TUF is a great idea, it attracts new fans, and harvests new talent yada yada yada I get it…..its good for the UFC, and probably MMA as a whole at the moment, but this time the coaches are what they should be, the same way it was when Tito and Shamrock coached….2 fighters with some fan interest, a decent match at the end that you can hype us (Tito vs Chuck can be hyped…..quite easily as much as we all know Chuck will win)….Tito can say he was injured before but he is 100 percent first time in years :)

    I think this pulls in nearly the same if not more viewers than Hardy vs GSP series without tying up a belt or contenders. Chuck and Tito aren’t true contenders at this point, but they are interesting characters, one loved, one hated, perfect to coach TUF !!!

  • JabCrossHook says:

    Wow? What did Chuck Lidell and Tito do to deserve to be coaches on TUF? This is proof all Dana cares about now is ratings, because nobody in their right mind would learn from Chuck or Tito. Honestly neither of them are very good coaches but hey its ratings. Serious though at least Rampage and Rashad were legitimate contenders, but Chuck and Tito are obviously on the very tail end of their career so I dunno.

  • Pajamashark says:

    @danw84

    Tell me what is the purpose of TUF, then? I thought it was the fighters not their coaches?

    I’ve seen every season. Hell, I’ve even read both of Tuck and Cheeto’s books. (Not good, btw, but they are fighters not writers.) And what I’ve gotten from all that is that TUF is coming to rely on the standard reality show tropes of bad guy vs. good guy, shitstarter, underdog, crazy pants loner, and prankster. I mean it is called Ultimate Fighter, not Ultimate Coach Grudge. By tapping Chuck and Tito they making as coaches two guys who have already taken their focus off of fighting and instead are seeing themselves as a brand. How does any of this serve the fighters very well? Should the fighters just be grateful for being in the presence of two legends? Or do we not care about the broke talented cannon fodder becuase all that matters is Tuck vs. Cheeto Part 3?

    My suggestion for GSP and Hamill was stupid; it was supposed to be. But having two coaches that have a hard time talking smack to each other would put the focus back on the fighters. You don’t need the coaches turning into screaming caricatures of themselves every chance they get in order to have a good leads on the show. Matt Hughes was a gleeful sadist; Nogeria a fatherly mench; Forrest a southern Siddh?rtha, Penn a swanning jock.

    I’m not biased for or against Tuck and Cheeto becuase I truly do not care about either one of them. They were both fine coaches before, and I’m sure they’ll be serviceable again. I’d just hate for either of them to fall into the trap of smack talk, which is easy, and neglect training and inspiring their fighters, which is hard. But fuck it, lol. I’ve probably put more thought into Season 11 then White has right now.

  • Vogairian says:

    Good choices I think. We get to avoid holding up any titles, we get a interesting fight, and both guys were solid coaches in their last stint.

  • Angry Mike says:

    Having these guys reprise their roles as coaches is a bad idea. They’re both on the back nine of their careers. Chuck ain’t the man that he once was, and we’ve already heard all the pissing, whining, and hype that Tito has to offer. Bringing these guys back for season 11 suggests that the show is as tired and worn out as they are. Imo, this move suggests that TUF has jumped the shark. That’s a shame, because season 10 proved that with the right mix, the show has plenty of life and ratings left.

  • elsicilian says:

    How about Shamrock and Gracie?

  • Ray Pist says:

    Angry Mike: Having these guys reprise their roles as coaches is a bad idea.They’re both on the back nine of their careers.Chuck ain’t the man that he once was, and we’ve already heard all the pissing, whining, and hype that Tito has to offer.Bringing these guys back for season 11 suggests that the show is as tired and worn out as they are. Imo, this move suggests that TUF has jumped the shark.That’s a shame, because season 10 proved that with the right mix, the show has plenty of life and ratings left.

    Is it not better they use “old worn out fighters” as the coaches…the show seriously delays fights almost a year….why the hell would you want your champs or up and comers unable to fight for that long? Just because we are told they are the coaches, doesn’t mean they do all the coaching. Have you ever watched TUF? The coach is the face and the CELEBRITY….they have their coaches there…its basically TEAM CHUCK…vs…TEAM TITO…chuck brings in hackleman and his coaches, tito brings in his guys….and the training begins !!!

    Everyone goes on about how Rampage wasn’t a coach….yeah that’s true but Tiki and his crew are….Rampage is just the face and there for personality and celebrity, the awe strike some of the fighters and to have a really good sparring partner or demonstrator for the students.

    That being said who would you want for TUF? I’m curious, would you want a title held up?

    I just think why not take two of the UFC’s largest celebrity’s, who aren’t going to compete for the belt anymore, who have a grudge, and use them as your coaches…it only makes sense…what really makes sense is not even having a fighter as a coach as you could just have team greg jackson vs AKA for TUF or something to that effect with guest appearances each week from the random fighters from each camp that is featured…but they have their format and as long as they stick to their current format I think this is the best fight possible….although here are a few other ones I think would have been decent.

    Phil Baroni vs Chris Lytle (Two gamers, Baroni is the cockiest guy on earth, perfect for camera and well neither are going to be champ any time soon)

    Kimbo Slice vs Mirko Cro-Cop (Catch weight 215 again…both need to make 205 eventually, give Kimbo one more training run at the cut, give Mirko a training run at cutting a bit of weight. This would bring in ratings because of Kimbo, might be too soon for more TUF Kimbo, but the UFC has Kimbo for ratings and nothing else. Mirko needs to cut to 205…he is way too small for HW, small jaw/head too…and he can easily make cut by his body type…prob don’t want to though but oh well…and yes I think this would get Cro-Cop back in the winners circle and help his confidence in the UFC a lot)

    Bisping vs Wandy (Hey I hate the Bisping, he won’t be fighting for belt..Wandy has shown to be slightly washed up but hope 185 suits his jaw better…would have made a decent TUF though)

    and lastly the only one I like more than Chuck and Tito

    Sherk vs Florian (Rematch of the title, sherk and florian both comming off losses aren’t in title picture for a while anyways…Florian really wants a rematch, I am sure it would be decent)

  • Dufresne says:

    As far as actual coaching abilities, both Chuck and Tito are very good.

    Look back at how much of an improved ground game Kendal Grove had after just a few months with Tito. And look at Hamill’s improvement. Sure his last fight was not a shining example, but compared to when he was on TUF, he’s light years ahead. As much as I despise Tito as an individual, he seems to have a knack for training young fighters.

    Chuck has some decent coaching credentials of his own as well. Both Diego and Forrest were members of Chuck’s team on the first season of TUF, and since that time one has become a champ (shortly, but hey, being champ at all is pretty damn impressive in the 205 division) and the other is competing for the belt this weekend.

    Random side note: I had no idea chuck was a purple belt in BJJ. I doubt we’ll ever see him submit someone, but how cool would that be?

  • Rockey 47 says:

    Cant wait!! going to be carnage!!

  • Angry Mike says:

    @Ray;

    Does it take a year to shoot a season of TUF? I don’t think so. The fact that it’s aired once a week for an hour makes it seem like it was a long period of time. I think it’s only a month or two, isn’t it? And why hold up any fighters or titles? Season 4 didn’t had a series of trainers and fighters who showed up once or twice as guests. Who said the coaches always have to fight? Rich Franklin and Matt Hughes didn’t in season 2, and there were no season-long coaches in season 4. Couture and Liddell fought several times, but I don’t think they fought each other as part of the finale of season 1.

    I don’t think you need to have title holders or contenders as coaches to get ratings. Kimbo’s participation was a huge driver for ratings in season 10, and his fight with Nelson got big numbers.

    So what would I do? How about teams from different nations like season 9. UFC could feature nations with good prospects like Brazil, Mexico, Russia, Japan or Korea. That would generate interest in new television/ppv markets. Use fighters or a series of fighters and trainers for the teams, and throw in a good fight between current UFC fighters to headline the finale.

  • king mah mah says:

    Chuck KO rd 1. Nuff said.

  • bbond30 says:

    I can’t imagine why anyone would think this is a good idea! Dana basically said the two of them are washed up! They would have done better to Make Machida and Shogun the coaches even though neither man speaks English well. This is a tired match up.

  • ndizzle says:

    bbond30: I can’t imagine why anyone would think this is a good idea! Dana basically said the two of them are washed up! They would have done better to Make Machida and Shogun the coaches even though neither man speaks English well. This is a tired match up.

    then you would have to wait til fall for the rematch,thats a bad idea

  • Dufresne says:

    Angry Mike: So what would I do? How about teams from different nations like season 9. UFC could feature nations with good prospects like Brazil, Mexico, Russia, Japan or Korea. That would generate interest in new television/ppv markets. Use fighters or a series of fighters and trainers for the teams, and throw in a good fight between current UFC fighters to headline the finale.

    The only problem I see arising from this is the language barriers that would be involved. Most folks don’t want to watch a TV show with subtitles (I’m okay with it, but that’s because I’m about as deaf as a post anyways)

    There was also decent amount of backlash from the die-hard community when they originally announced the UK v US format, but I don’t think they really were too concerned with that. Especially when you consider that they signed Kimbo for the next season and they had to know how much that was going to piss off 80-90% of the hardcore fans.

    Overall, lots of very valid points. Well said.

  • Makington says:

    Dufresne: As far as actual coaching abilities, both Chuck and Tito are very good.
    Look back at how much of an improved ground game Kendal Grove had after just a few months with Tito. And look at Hamill’s improvement. Sure his last fight was not a shining example, but compared to when he was on TUF, he’s light years ahead. As much as I despise Tito as an individual, he seems to have a knack for training young fighters.Chuck has some decent coaching credentials of his own as well. Both Diego and Forrest were members of Chuck’s team on the first season of TUF, and since that time one has become a champ (shortly, but hey, being champ at all is pretty damn impressive in the 205 division) and the other is competing for the belt this weekend.Random side note: I had no idea chuck was a purple belt in BJJ. I doubt we’ll ever see him submit someone, but how cool would that be?

    The thing with all those fighters however is that the real progress they didn’t make until after the show when they left those coaches. They were all very true and very good points, but Diego was training with greg Jackson who made him great, and Forrest with Extreme Couture. Kendall still trains with Tito on occasion but he spends most of his time with BJ Penn.

    Unfortunately with only 6 some odd weeks, you can make a lot of progress, but not enough to change yourself as a fighter. The biggest things the coaches can do is set proper foundations for training and hep them make sure they have the early steps done right so that when they get to the higher steps they are doing them proper.

    My point is although they can make some definite changes with the fighters, the real credit goes to who they train with afterwards, I give Mark Delagrotte much more credit than I give Chuck Liddell for making Kenny Florian the fighter he is today.

  • WarCry says:

    It almost seems as though the UFC is developing a senior circuit. These two will never compete for the belt. This is a fight for the light heavyweight championship of themselves.

  • elkymbo says:

    Oh great we get to see Tito crap on about how awesome he is again. Why doesn’t he just fuck off and bang that wind sock of a missus of his?

  • danw84 says:

    Angry Mike: @Ray;Does it take a year to shoot a season of TUF?I don’t think so.The fact that it’s aired once a week for an hour makes it seem like it was a long period of time.I think it’s only a month or two, isn’t it?And why hold up any fighters or titles?Season 4 didn’t had a series of trainers and fighters who showed up once or twice as guests.Who said the coaches always have to fight?Rich Franklin and Matt Hughes didn’t in season 2, and there were no season-long coaches in season 4.Couture and Liddell fought several times, but I don’t think they fought each other as part of the finale of season 1.I don’t think you need to have title holders or contenders as coaches to get ratings.Kimbo’s participation was a huge driver for ratings in season 10, and his fight with Nelson got big numbers.So what would I do?How about teams from different nations like season 9.UFC could feature nations with good prospects like Brazil, Mexico, Russia, Japan or Korea.That would generate interest in new television/ppv markets.Use fighters or a series of fighters and trainers for the teams, and throw in a good fight between current UFCfighters to headline the finale.

    Announcement of the coaches, then waiting on the filming to begin, then filming which I don’t know how long that takes but I think is around 1.5 months? Maybe 1 month? Anyway, then editing, then getting it on tv, then about 10 weeks or so of episodes, then waiting for the PPV that the coaches fight on.

    A year might be an exaggeration, but it is by no means a quick process to film and air a season of TUF. I believe filming alone for season 10 finished some time in August, and just now finished airing. So almost 4 months JUST for the show to be finished editing and airing. That with everything else basically means around a minimum of 6 months between the beginning of filming and the fight between the coaches. And that doesn’t even include the time between when the coaches are announced and when filming actually begins. It’s not like the coaches are going to be fighting anyone before then.

    GSP vs Hardy should be in just a few months, but if there was a season of TUF with them as the coaches first we would have quite a wait. I think it is an issue that titles get held up waiting on the show, and I’m happy that these two should put on quite a good season, while not holding up anything at all other than their fight.

  • Makington says:

    Agreed dan. We won’t be seeing Chuck and Tito fight anywhere before the summer, and more likely next fall. It would be terrible if we had to wait on a title or a contender for that long. I still think this was the UFC’s best choice they could do for coaches. It’s not going to hold any division up waiting for the outcome, and it’s still a fight that will generate tons of interest. We all know that this will be a main event, and although it won’t be as good as the previous fights, I can almost guarantee there will be a lot of hype behind this.

  • Nick Havok says:

    This is freaking lame!

    Ortiz vs. Liddell 3…WHO GIVES A CRAP?!

    I’m sorry to shit all over this…but honestly, it completely sucks in my opinion. I could care less if I see these two guys at all. Both are way past their prime and doing nothing but cashing in off their ‘names’ at this point.

    I’m sure the noobs/casuals will eat this up though.

  • Guthookd says:

    I’m not too happy about this one. Chuck already whooped on Tito plenty. This time Chuck is way past his prime and Tito will win and the stream of trash talking out of his mouth may never stop.

    I hate to do it…..Tito by decision round three.

  • joe mo mma says:

    setting up chuck vs. tito just creates the opportunity for dana to kick a high paying super star off the payroll. chuck wins… then tito’s gone.. tito wins.. chuck’s gone…

    i wonder if chuck will be getting his standard half mil like he used to…

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