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Brock Lesnar vs. Shane Carwin In The Works For UFC 106 (UPDATED)

EDITORS NOTE: Contrary to other reports currently claiming  this fight as being confirmed, this bout is not official at this point. FiveOuncesOfPain.com has been able to confirm through sources very close to the potential bout that negotiations are under way, but nothing is set in stone at this time. Stay tuned to 5 Oz’s as we keep you updated on this still developing story.

Shane Carwin PicIt appears as though Brock Lesnar may be making his first official heavyweight title defense against Shane Carwin at UFC 106.

The event is scheduled for November 21 from the Mandalay Bay in Las Vegas and will also showcase a light-heavyweight bout between Tito Ortiz and Mark Coleman.

A recent report on MMAMadness.com citing sources close to the fight claimed the bout was set; however, when FiveOuncesOfPain.com was able to contact sources close to the promotion, they were unable confirm or deny the report.

5 Oz’s has since been able to confirm that negotiations for the bout are currently under way, but nothing is finalized at this time.

Carwin had previously been slated to meet Cain Velasquez at UFC 104.

Carwin will be making his return off of the most impressive performance in his career when he pulled himself from the canvas to knock Gabriel Gonzaga senseless in electrifying fashion. Undefeated in eleven professional bouts, Carwin has not been extended past the first round a single time in his beatdown littered career.

Lesnar will be defending his title he recently unified by obliterating Frank Mir with brutal ground and pound in the second round of their UFC 100 bout. He has taken the world of MMA by storm, winning the UFC heavyweight strap in a record amount of time, and compiling a record of 4-1 while avenging his sole defeat to the previously mentioned Mir.

The Octagon will likely need to be specially reinforced for the bout as both men should weigh in right around the 265 pound mark. Both guys are known for their dynamic wrestling ability, strength and dominance in the Octagon.

68 COMMENTS
  • antone3x7 says:

    Does this mean that Cain Velasquez pulled out of UFC 104?

  • antone3x7 says:

    Actually, this makes a lot of sense. Brock last fought in July, but the UFC didn’t have a #1 contender until Cain-Carwin is settled in Oct. That would put Brock’s next defense somewhere in Feb. Having only 1 HW title fight a year is way too slow, so holding Brock vs. Carwin in Nov makes sense, with Cain getting next. Speed things up with the HW title defenses.

    BTW, why doesn’t Brock-Mir count as a HW title defense? Couture was the undisputed HW champ, Big Nog won the interim title, Mir won the interim title from Nog, but Brock beat Couture for the HW title. The interim champ really is considered the #1 contender when the champ returns, and in this case, it was Brock after beating Couture. Mir, as such, was announced as the challenger at UFC 100.

  • ekc says:

    well, i hope shane beats the shit outta brock.

  • elkymbo says:

    Well I hope Brock beats the crap out of Shane he’s a whiny little bitch.

  • helterskelter says:

    WTF!!!! This is my personal dream fight! Two goliaths trying to clobber each other, what’s not to love??

    I think Carwin has the torque in his punch to shock a whole lot of people!

    Great match-up. It’s the fight all the fans want to see really. I really hope this bad boy comes to fruition!

  • danw84 says:

    I’m so happy to see this happen so fast. I wonder how many “fans” the UFC will lose after Brock gets beat as fast as he will by Carwin.

  • cocoonofhorror says:

    what about the Velasquez fight?

  • Jfmoore62 says:

    Weather you love Brock or hate him, he has made the Heavyweight division exciting again.

  • shotokai_ says:

    “Well I hope Brock beats the crap out of Shane he’s a whiny little bitch.”

    He will, don’t worry.

  • hindsightufuk says:

    on a completely different note, just read that 5 round non title fights have been approved for sepcial events!! awesome news! i wonder now will every mma show have a 5 round main event regardless of wether its for a title or not?

  • fraz says:

    @antone3x7…

    Don’t overthink it. It’s Brock first time defending the UNIFIED belt.

  • fraz says:

    @hindsightufuk…

    Only the Nevada commision has approved it at this point. So every show would not be eligible (eg. Randy vs. Nog would be nice as a 5 rounder but it won’t be possible, Same with Franklin/Belfort although they hopefully won’t need it).
    Hopefully the other states will follow suit shortly.

  • Jstew3785 says:

    This is one of my dream fights as well. Carwin definitely has the power to catch him and the same could be said for Lesnar. Both guys are huge and both are stellar wrestlers. Obviously Lesnar will be the better wrestler, but Carwin is no slouch either. Now, this is my opinion, but I think Carwin catches him early and KO’s him. I could see it playing out several different ways though. I’m glad they’re doing this fight now rather than Feb or March like antone said.

  • Guy Gaduois says:

    Fortunately, I remember (see paragraph 6) that the fight was Carwin v. Gonzaga and that Gonzaga is “the dangerous Brazilian”, but you might want to clarify, as most people read what you write because they don’t know what you’re thinking -ESP is not universal and there are potential new fans to the sport who can’t rattle off the last five UFC cards from memory.
    Because the dangerous Brazilian could also be:
    1. something done with a dull razor or butterknife
    2. a fantastic, old school pro wrestling pseudonym
    3. a terrific indicator of a need for an editor

    Ye gods, man – – have someone else read it before you post it; it takes seconds!

  • Jstew3785 says:

    Guy, why bash the writers of this site? If you don’t like it, don’t read it. No one is forcing you to be here. Cory is a cool dude and doesn’t deserve the shit a lot of people give him on this site.

  • clarkkent says:

    Yea, I am wondering bout the Cain fight at ufc 104, that was shaping up to be the best fight on a card since Machida will embarass Shogun in LA. Get words from Cain’s camp…Just a thought

  • Cory Brady says:

    Seriously Guy. Give it a rest man. There’s not a site on the Internet that doesn’t make an occasional typo. You wrote all of that to let me know I made a typo? HaHa!

  • Gurthee says:

    All things being equal, which they aren’t, Brock is the better wrestler and has a GIANT skull. Advantage Brock.

  • fanoftna33 says:

    I think this is a good money fight for the ufc, better to do it now while both guys seem invinceable than wait until later. Most likely this fight will be over in the first round by ko, pick your guy, but the hype will be off the charts for this. It kind of sucks for fights like this to overshadow great upcoming fights like Randy vs Nog which more than likely will give us a terrific technical battle between two greats, but the ufc will hype this like no other and it will just be two big guys punching each other(IF anybody ever saw the first street fighter movie remember E Honda vs Zangief).

  • helterskelter says:

    I’m freaking out right now. At least now we know the bout is really being discussed. Carwin’s gonna pull the horseshoe out of Lesnar’s ass and beat him over the head with it! WoooHooo!

  • G-DUB says:

    “what about the Velasquez fight?”

    The UFC is fond of putting 2 up and coming fighters in the cage together. From a business standpoint, because the UFC HW division is thin (comparative to their other weight classes), I think cancelling the Valasquez/Carwin fight is a great idea. That way, when Lesnar destroys Carwin, they have another fight against an undefeated HW to promote. I’m assuming they’ll give Valasquez one more tough fight to win before he gets his chance at the title … perhaps the winner of Nog vs. Couture.

  • Angry Mike says:

    Hopefully Carwin can keep Lesnar at arm’s length long enough to test his chin. Lesnar puts opponents on the defensive so quickly that hasn’t really happened yet. I want to see a fight, not a bull rush take down and a quick pound out.

  • gy614x says:

    Great News,

    Even though Shane is Div. II wrestler, i belive thats enough to keep the fight standing long enough to test Big Les’s Chin.

    Man this is gonna be an exciting fight

    oh and to the person above who said about lesnar being huge? i agree, but i think you should take a look at some of Carwins highlights and just how big he actually is, they say his hands are the same size as lesnars, and his head is pretty large too (just throwing that in there).

    IM SAYIN IT NOW CARWIN BY KO!!!!!

  • manny says:

    hell yeah, I agree with everyone that mentioned b4 ” having the fight now rather then later”. I mean it would be too long of a wait for him to fight againg. Lets go Carwin and knock that cocky sunofabitch out! I hope Carwin shows the world that lesnar can not take a puch.. We will see.

  • cocoonofhorror says:

    uhhhh, Mr. Brady i think you meant “Haha” in your response, not “HaHa”. just sayin…

    also, WTF HAPPENED TO CARWIN/VELASQUEZ?!

  • Cory Brady says:

    No, I meant HaHa, and nothing has happened to Carwin/Velasquez at this point. As of right now the fight between Brock and Shane is still in negotiations. We’re trying see what we can find out about Cain.

  • Rich S. says:

    Carwin isn’t as good or experienced as some of the guys Lesnar has faced, but he has more power in his hands than any of them.. maybe even combined.. And right now, with the caliber wrestling Brock has shown us, heavy hands are the ONLY thing that can beat him..

    I’m actually excited for this, because I don’t see Cain having much of a chance against Lesnar.. So, I’d rather see Carwin jump right in there with Brock, rather than having a chance of losing to Cain..

  • edub says:

    “oh and to the person above who said about lesnar being huge? i agree, but i think you should take a look at some of Carwins highlights and just how big he actually is, they say his hands are the same size as lesnars, and his head is pretty large too (just throwing that in there).”

    I agree with Shane being a huge human being but he is not Lesnar. The guy weighed in for his fight with Gabe at 258 I think.

    I got lesnar by stoppage in the 2nd or 3rd.

  • edub says:

    Damn thats kinda shitty for Cain dont you think Cory.

  • Cory Brady says:

    It depends on how Cain views it. If he felt in his heart that he wanted a little more time to develop, it may be a benefit for him in the long run. One thing I do know for a fact is that Carwin is over being developed. He wants Brock right now! Hopefully this thing pans out. We’ll keep you posted.

  • manny says:

    edub

    lesnar’s hand are way smaller than carwin’s. Lesnar uses 3xl on his hands and carwin uses 5xl. Sure he’s a better wrestler but one punch from carwin and lesnar will feel the power and drop immediately. After all, in mma one puch can make the differnce in a fight.

  • edub says:

    Im not in a position to disagree with ya(IM at a work computer taht can only go to certain sites) but im gonna go ahead and do it. Carwins hands are not bigger than lesnars.

  • edub says:

    “It depends on how Cain views it. If he felt in his heart that he wanted a little more time to develop, it may be a benefit for him in the long run. One thing I do know for a fact is that Carwin is over being developed. He wants Brock right now! Hopefully this thing pans out. We’ll keep you posted.”

    Rgr that. thanx man

  • manny says:

    according to fop, they had an article out awhile back, stating carwin called lesnar a liar for saying that brock had the stronget punching power than carwin.Carwin said he never tested his strength agaist brock I also read about the glove sizes aswell. I’m pretty sure carwin’s glove are bigger. Same here, at work with limited access. damn fire walls!

  • Jstew3785 says:

    edub, you didn’t hear Joe Rogan during the instant replay of the Gonzaga KO say “The only guy with gloves bigger than Brock Lesnars.”

  • moosebaby02 says:

    Carwins hands are bigger. He also has faster hands imo. i dont think people are given Carwin much credit. Carwin 11-0, 6 by KO, 5 Submission (thats right he has ground game) and never been in the 2nd round. Brock 4-1. 1st fight was a soup can. 2nd fight lost in the 1st to Mir (rookie mistake). 3rd fight out man handled a smaller man in Hearing. 4th fight got a good punch behind the ear to an aging Randy who won the 1st round imo. 5th fight layer on top of Mir and punched him in the face until the ref stopped it. this is not going to be as easy for Brock as everyone see’s it.
    CARWIN BY KO. wanted to be the 1st to call it but gy614x beat me to the punch…if it happens

  • moosebaby02 says:

    layed on top of Mir

  • You can’t really knock Lesnar for fighting a “soup can” in his first fight out when Carwin had his fair share of Campbell’s during his fight three or four fights.

    And yes, Herring is smaller. Way to point out the obvious. That “good punch” argument can be applied to any fight. Wandy was winning his third fight with Rampage until Jackson landed a good punch.

    And I’m sorry… how is maintaining top control over a BBJ blackbelt and pounding his face in until the referee stops you a bad thing?

  • Jstew3785 says:

    Sergio defeats moosebaby02 via tko(strikes)

  • cocoonofhorror says:

    Haha!

  • JollyDV says:

    carwin via ko.

  • fraz says:

    Brock TKO round 2.

  • edub says:

    “I agree with Shane being a huge human being but he is not Lesnar. The guy weighed in for his fight with Gabe at 258 I think.

    I got lesnar by stoppage in the 2nd or 3rd.”

    Im changing my pick to a Brock stoppage in the 1st or 2nd.

  • Bullylover says:

    carwin is definately lesners biggest test due to his huge size,speed, and great wrestling.i really don’t know who to pick. i guess i’ll say carwin via ko in da 1’st

  • RU486 says:

    Am I alone in thinking that Lesnar has gotten smaller since his first UFC fight? Maybe he doesn’t want to cut 30+ lbs. anymore. I would think Carwin would still bulk up a little bit for this fight. He probably slimmed down in preparations for Gonzaga because Gonzaga usually weighs in the 240s and 250s. But Gabe came in fat. Also, Gabe is jitz guy, and Shane may have wanted the additional speed and flexibility of weighing 15 lbs. lighter. Who knows.

    To all the people who think Lesnar will own Carwin in the wrestling department, take a look back at his fight with Randy. Randy did a pretty good job of stopping Brock from bullrushing over him, despite being outweighed by 50+ lbs, because of his superior Greco-Roman. Imagine a another accomplished wrestler with comparable size and strength as Brock, and a whole new scenario unfolds. Perhaps Carwin will take Brock down at will?

  • xtreme_machine says:

    Brock beats Carwin

    then

    Brock vs Couture II

    Ps Randy wins!

  • BigDave says:

    Two huge dudes with great wrestling but lets face it brock has destroyed the best the division has to offer and with the fact that brock wont have to worry about carwin trying for a submission he will just rush him take him down and pound him out.

    Lesnar by TKO (strikes) rd1

  • edub says:

    I wanna see Brock and Carwin fight 4 155ers in the cage. Im guessing they wouldnt sanction it but it would be awesome!!!!

    Funny thing is I think Id bet on Carwin and Brock.

  • s13 says:

    Carwin wears 5x gloves (Joe Rogan points it out everytime shane fights). Brock has 4x gloves. Why do people shortchange shane though? The man has ko’d all 11 opponents in the first round. I even saw in a post somewhere here where someone was saying ‘Shane doesn’t have brock’s experience’ when shane has 3x the number of fights? Not to mention the wind from his fist MISSING you will put you on queer street.

  • moosebaby02 says:

    Sergio
    “You can’t really knock Lesnar for fighting a “soup can” in his first fight out when Carwin had his fair share of Campbell’s during his fight three or four fights.

    And yes, Herring is smaller. Way to point out the obvious. That “good punch” argument can be applied to any fight. Wandy was winning his third fight with Rampage until Jackson landed a good punch.

    And I’m sorry… how is maintaining top control over a BBJ blackbelt and pounding his face in until the referee stops you a bad thing?”

    Not really knocking him at all. he has done allot in his SHORT time in MMA. what i forgot to state is that Carwin has been in more fights and yes had his share of soup cans as well but he has finished all of his fights and the 1st round. he is not a push over and is very dangerous fighter as well. another point is how hard can it really be for someone of Lesnar’s size, speed, strength and wrestling background to take anyone down smaller than him and just lay on top of him and control that person. Shane is not as small as the rest of Lesnar’s past opponents so this will be interesting to see if he can dominate him so easily as everyone thinks he is going to do. For all we know Carwin will ground and pound him out. I have a feeling that Lesnar will taste his power and will want to take to the mat very quickly

  • danisocean says:

    This will be Lesners biggest test, he has dominated with his size and strength, Shane will nuturalize this , If we have to pick a winner which is tuff Id still go with Lesner-his confidence and explosive power is not something the Shane C has been up against yet. Shanes best chance is to outbox lesner it will be a very exciting fight.

  • danisocean says:

    This will be Lesners biggest test, he has dominated with his size and strength, Shane will nuturalize this , If we have to pick a winner which is tuff Id still go with Lesner-his confidence and explosive power is not something the Shane C has been up against yet. Shanes best chance is to outbox lesner it will be a very exciting fight.

  • danisocean says:

    This will be Lesners biggest test, he has dominated with his size and strength, Shane will nuturalize this , If we have to pick a winner which is tuff Id still go with Lesner-his confidence and explosive power is not something the Shane C has been up against yet. Shanes best chance is to outbox lesner it will be a very exciting fight.

  • Jstew3785 says:

    i think dan believes this will be Lesnars biggest test

  • moosebaby02 says:

    i believe so as well Jstew3785. oh Jstew the ref stopped the fight early i wasnt out damnit. i want a rematch

  • Jstew3785 says:

    It must have been the ref who did the Amir Sadollah match. Can’t think of his name right now.

  • edub says:

    His name is Robert Paulson.

  • Jstew3785 says:

    The first rule about fight club is ……

  • edub says:

    To make soap first we must render fat.

  • Jstew3785 says:

    Now, a question of etiquette – as I pass, do I give you the ass or the crotch?

  • moosebaby02 says:

    i just read that this fight is comfirmed for Nov 21st on another site. you hear anything yet Cory since i dont trust that site???

  • Jstew3785 says:

    I read it on yahoo sports, which I somewhat trust. They had some quotes from Dana on there which made it sound legit.

  • moosebaby02 says:

    well then this is a good day cause i wanted to see this fight ever since i saw Carwin get rocked by Goz and come back by crushing him. two giants go at it will be sweet

  • Dr.Stoppage says:

    After extensive research,
    It might happen,
    And, Shane might win.
    BUT,
    Brock might win instead.
    MWHHHAAAhhhAAAhhhAAAhhhAAA111

    I just hope it happens before 2011.
    Yes girls,I have the foresight to stockpile my stockpiles high enough to allow me the advantage of having a front row seat into the perfect MMA final showdown …whooops sorry…….i was napping….

  • Dr.Stoppage says:

    “Guy Gaduois says:
    August 20, 2009 at 9:26 am
    Fortunately, I remember (see paragraph 6) that the fight was Carwin v. Gonzaga and that Gonzaga is “the dangerous Brazilian”, but you might want to clarify, as most people read what you write because they don’t know what you’re thinking -ESP is not universal and there are potential new fans to the sport who can’t rattle off the last five UFC cards from memory.
    Because the dangerous Brazilian could also be:
    1. something done with a dull razor or butterknife
    2. a fantastic, old school pro wrestling pseudonym”
    3. a terrific indicator of a need for an editor

    “Ye gods, man – – have someone else read it before you post it; it takes seconds! “

  • Dr.Stoppage says:

    Exactly!
    To all the writer’s who have the balls to write.

    You’re inroads to articles ain’t a right …they’re alll BLAHBLAHBLAH !!!

    So.for whAT IT’S WORTH

  • metalmulisha says:

    Does anybody know what the fuck this guy is talking about?

  • BigDave says:

    @edub If they would ever (and they wont) did a match with lesnar and carwin against 4 guys I would like it to be BJ Penn, the diaz brothers, and Frank Shamrock. Use ufc 1 rules. I hope they would end all there careers Penn and the Diaz’s because they have zero respect for the sport and I’d like to see shamrock get voicebox damage so we never have to hear him commentate ever again.

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