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The Day After: UFC 101

bj_pennI demand that Anderson Silva be tested for the red pill following last evening’s annihilation of Forrest Griffin. It’s obvious “The Spider” freed himself from the Matrix prior to the bout with Forrest in a fashion that would make Morpheus proud. Everything seemed to slow down for Silva last night. It was as if the dominant Brazilian hit slow motion during his bout with Griffin last night. A brilliant performance from a brilliant athlete.

Silva vs. anyone at middleweight just got a lot less interesting. The devastating knockout over Michael Bisping sparked a renewed interest in the prospect of Dan Henderson having a realistic chance at dethroning the current UFC middleweight champion, but Bisping is no Anderson Silva. The straight forward aggressive style employed to send “The Count” to dreamland would be disastrous against a striker of Silva’s caliber. I was screaming at the top of my lungs for a Nate Marquardt rematch with Silva, believing the Greg Jackson trained fighter’s much improved tenacity would serve him well a second time around, but Silva took the wind right out of my sails last night in just a few minutes. Demian Maia? Far too one dimensional in my opinion. So the question has to be asked, ‘Has it gotten to a point where there really are no challenges left for Anderson at 185?’.

Is there any possibility of a Silva vs. Machida fight in the future? Silva’s performance last evening established him as a legitimate and immediate threat to the light-heavyweight championship that Lyoto currently wears around his waist. A match made in heaven between two unearthly technical martial artists that seem to verge on invincibility. The best thing about a battle between the pair would be the fact that one man would have to suffer a defeat. A prospect that seems somewhat unimaginable in the near future due to the current state of affairs. Anderson says he’ll never fight Lyoto,and it’s no secret that the two are long-time friends and training partners. Of course Dana White and Lorenzo Fertitta have both gone on record recently stating that friendships are irrelevant inside of the Octagon. You’ll face who the UFC tells you to face, and you’ll like it. It’s going to be interesting to see how this plays out, but here’s to hoping for Machida vs. Silva for the light-heavyweight strap in the near future.

I’m calling shenanigans on Silva and Griffin being awarded the $60,000 Fight of the Night bonus. Fight of the Night? Hardly. More like Beatdown of the Night? Come on folks, I consider a fight to be when it’s at least somewhat competitive, the fight between Silva and Griffin was hardly that. Obviously this was the bout that electrified the crowd more than any other, but it was no fight of the night. I could pick a good four or five fights that I would have awarded the honors before this trouncing, but I’d like to point at the lightweight championship bout between B.J. Penn and Kenny Florian as an example. Two athletes really pushing each other in a hard fought four round title fight. I mean, at least it was a fight, right?

B.J. Penn will rule the 155 pound division for as long as he feels like it. I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again here, the only man that beats Penn at lightweight in the near future is himself. I think many people forget how young B.J. is because he’s been relevant in the game for so long, but the pride of Hilo is still a baby in the sport at a mere thirty years old. A scary prospect for men choosing to make their money in the future fighting at 155 pounds like Diego Sanchez, Gray Maynard, Frankie Edgar and Kenny Florian. Ken-Flo was an extremely deserving challenger to the throne and B.J. just made it look easy. Making it look easy against a guy like Florian is a scary thing. For B.J. it’s always been a motivation thing. I hope continuing to establish his legacy as one of the greatest fighters to have ever lived will be enough to motivate him to compte for another five or ten years.

Did anyone else catch Dana White speak about a free UFC event being planned for October during the post-fight press conference? Can you say “Fedor counter-programming”? Does this come as a surprise to anyone familiar with the UFC’s long history of counter-programming events such as EliteXC and Affliction in the past? It sure shouldn’t. Now the UFC plays the waiting game as you can expect an announcement of the date and location of their October event to come shortly after the announcement of the Strikeforce event planned for the same month. Can we all just get along?

Just know, MMA is not boxing. Sure, Anderson looked spectacular last night while making Griffin look foolish, just don’t assume Silva is somehow on the level of a former boxing champion such as Roy Jones Jr. A fight between the two would be a mismatch under boxing rules. Dana White agreed in a conversation he had with Jones during UFC 101, telling the eight-time, multiple weight class boxing champion that he doesn’t like a Silva vs. Jones boxing match because it’s basically two different worlds. Griffin is a hell of a mixed martial artist but to be on the level that any of the top boxers competing in the sport are, you had to have trained in the sweet science from adolescence. Studying nothing but footwork, using your hips for leverage, head movement, and punching, punching, punching. Non-stop training on how to decimate your opponent with your fists, and fists alone. “The Spider” would do about as well against Jones in a boxing match as Jones would going up against Silva in a mixed martial arts rules bout. Jones knows it too, that’s why he’s licking his chops at the prospect of making an example of Silva in the near future.

Fans are constantly becoming more educated in this beautiful sport of ours. I just figured everyone would be proud to know that an estimated 11,000 people were in attendance to watch the very first prelim bout of the evening at UFC 101. A far cry from the attendance for prelim bouts in the UFC just a year ago.

  • hindsightufuk says:

    diego sanchez will be able to talk a lot of shit to motivate bj to fight him, i’m just not sure how long bj will want to fight in the ufc. he’s prett much out of top contenders. personally would like to see him fight the likes of hansen, aoki, kawijiri, melendez, ishida, yamamoto, especially alvarez. anyone know how long bj has on his current contract? if he wanted to go to a higher weight Dream would be ideal, vs Sakurai would be awesome

  • mikefab says:

    Being from Philly I want to say that we are great fight fans and that is why 11,000 were in the Wachovia Center for the prelims, but lets put it in a little perspective. Many of the those at the event had been tailgating the entire day and staying out in the dark until 10 pm is even a little much even for us. Philly is a great MMA town and spending upwards of $200 for tickets, I want to see every fight on the card. Also the prelims are less attended in Vegas because, well it’s Vegas. A short walk away from the arena are free drinks, sports books, slot/poker machines, black jack tables, etc. A short walk from the Wachovia Center is, well nothing. (Although there will be an entertainment complex going in were the Spectrum is currently sitting). All in all a great night and I cannot wait for UFC to come back to Philly.

  • neijia says:

    > Jones licking his chops.

    I don’t know. Jones doesn’t need to prove anything at all. He is probably just looking for an interesting payday and comeback to enjoy some of the old glory. At 40, some of his incredible speed is gone but he’s probably still faster than Silva and certainly better and more experienced based on 50+ wins. OTOH, Spider may actually prove something. He is only 1-1 in pro boxing but at least can probably hang and lose by decision. At best, who knows. Anderson is 6 years younger, still very fast, just as talented, has a 3 and a half inch reach advantage, and seems just as good at unorthodox stance.

    We were all 100% wrong about our predictions on how badly Silva’d beat Griffin, and I think we’re probably all 100% wrong on how good he might fare against Jones.

    I am more excited about this bout than anything the UFC can set up for him now. Even if they set up Silva vs. Jackson or Machida.

  • fraz says:

    As stacked as the LW division is, there are really only a couple more interesting fights lefts for BJ at this point.
    I think BJ’s best 3 opponents lie outside the UFC.
    On the technical side, Shinya Aoki gives BJ a very good run for his money.
    Alvarez is a great all-around fighter.
    And Hellboy Hansen in my opinion is now the toughest most agressive LW fighter out there.
    Hopefully the UFC can convince at least one of these guys to sign up.

  • Jak says:

    I agree that Griffin/Silva should not have been FOTN. That was one of the dumbest things i have heard in MMA recently.

    Griffin landed like one punch… and got 60k for it… đŸ˜•

  • MMA-LOGIC says:

    I think Silva should fight Kimbo.
    They have both won fixed fights.
    Everyone was booing the UFC’s main dude so they did what the needed to to get him back in the good books. Maybe.

  • drstu says:

    okay, it only took one day for the matrix reference to get tired…

  • danw84 says:

    Haha putting out a conspiracy theory of a fixed fight with the name MMA-Logic?

    Anyway, both of these men are far better than ever even considering this sort of thing. I love Forrest, but Silva kicked his ass. Simple as that.

  • danw84 says:

    “okay, it only took one day for the matrix reference to get tired…”

    Agreed. I thought it was lame the first time I heard it.

  • MMA-LOGIC says:

    Oh just want to say that Almeida and Pelligrino are both BJJ guys, both spent the majority of the fight on the ground or trying to get it there, tried 0 submissions (not 1)for 15 mins, had submissions nearly finish them, had more damage done to them and won the fight. Booooooooo!
    If somebody tries for half the rd to take you down in a clinch and then finally does, don’t give them points, what about the last 3 mins where the guy had to defend cuz the guy was stuck to him like glue, does he get points for stuffing 3 mins of take down attempts? No. Just cuz they don’t want to stand up should not be rewarded! If they slam or throw, great give points but F#*k!. Not once did either of them come close to finishing the fight or even trying.
    Change the rules.

  • MMA-LOGIC says:

    Why are logic and conspiracy conflicting??? One leads to the other! Doesn’t it?.
    Sorry you are WITHOUT logic there buddy.

  • s00nertp says:

    Great thoughts on the night.

    As far as the comment on fights being fixed. I personally feel like that is a carry over from other sports. Maybe it is human nature to fix fights, but in my opinion it hasnt happened in the UFC.

    How was the fight fixed? What else was Forrest going to do that he didnt try? Leg kicks? Anderson caught them easily. Take it to the ground? Are you serious.. Silva is a BJJ black belt from Nog. Stand? Well, Forrest is excellent at that, and we saw what happened.

    Did you think Forrest wasnt knocked out? He was rocked 3 times very clearly. They reported he broke his jaw & lost partial hearing. Do you really want him getting more hurt? Do you really think the head jarring punch didnt rock the heck out of him?

    Please explain. Otherwise all I can think of is the fans who yell “fix” about this fight have either clouded judgement from love of Forrest or are people who, given the choice, would fix fights themselves. (aka: “you see what you want to see”, no matter what is the reality)

  • MMA-LOGIC says:

    “you see what you want to see”
    Exactly. If you have a broken jaw what do you do? you protect it! it is very very very hard to stop yourself from holding it. what Forrest did was not natural.

  • danw84 says:

    I just simply cannot see either Silva or Forrest participating in a fixed fight. But both of them? It’s just too out there.

  • drstu says:

    if you are going to fix a fight, why tell the guy to go down one minute into the first? why would Dana White say to himself,”hmm, i want this to be the most boring fight possible”
    watch “snatch”, the fix always comes in in the third.

  • ozz_the_powerful says:

    I can’t believe people are actually giving the “fixed” thing a real thought.

    MMA-LOGIC said it perfectly. He was in an incredible amount of pain, and was protecting it. Watch the way he put his hands up (it was either the 2nd or 3rd time he got knocked down.) He was clearly not himself at that point and knew SOMETHING was wrong.

    Think about this: When you get knocked out from a punch to the chin, your mandible gets shoved violently into two nerves that run in your head. IF his jaw was dislocated already, that would explain perfectly why a 12-16″ punch would have seperated him from conciousness.

  • manny says:

    This match was not fixed, it was set up perfect by the ufc to make silva shine /fight. No one should be stunned by the way he won, (unless you are fan’s of forrest)it was set up perfect, a brawler vs a counter striker. Forest pressed him and made silva fight. Cote, leites didn’t so we saw them dancing in the cage. Simple as that, the match was not fixed.

  • fanoftna33 says:

    What needs to be talked about after 101 is the fact that Alessio fn Sakara just beat the last man to challenge for the MW title. He is not the worst fighter out there but come on, the guy they presented as a legit threat for Silva just a few months ago got beat by Sakara, who got koed by Leben. That they got people to belive Leitas had a chance against Silve just goes to show you how good the ufc promotional machine is, and what they could do for anybody.

  • moosebaby02 says:

    yes fanoftna33 damn right. I wish I saw that fight just to see if leitas aka cheap date would have the same game plan as he did with the spider???
    as for the fixed fight that’s just someone trying to get under someone else’s skin. Come on do you really think the fight was fixed????? What good can come from it from all angles???? Use some logic man

  • ozz_the_powerful says:

    It wasn’t fixed. That’s absolutely absurd to even think.

    On a side note, who thinks Silve would give Fedor a run for his money? Personally, after what I saw, I absolutely believe Anderson would beat Fedor.

  • fanoftna33 says:

    I will answer that question after I see how Fedor looks in his next fight, i assume it will also be his first fight in a cage, if he looks as dominate as ever I will still side with Fedor.

  • ozz_the_powerful says:

    Fujita showed the world that Fedor CAN be rocked. I see that as a MAJOR strength to Silva’s favor.

    Anyways, fun to ponder. But, you never know.

  • fanoftna33 says:

    Speaking of Fujita did you see his fight last week in Sengoku, he fought the guy who last beat Fedor in Sambo,Ivanov. Fujita lost and almost got koed in rd1 but it was a good fight espacially as it was Ivanovs first pro fight.

  • danisocean says:

    Griffin although likable needs maturity in his fighting. Think before you punch comes with age. Anderson vs Machida I do not believe will happen its sad that fight and Fedor vs Brock the two fights everyone wants to see amazingly not possible.

    Ozz I agree Anderson would kill Fedor, I think Brock and Randy would both kill Fedor.

    Randy vs Anderson would be a great plan b fight. Randy was a army boxing champ and with his conditioning would be at least a fun fight to watch. George Rush if he can gain some pounds would also be a great fight for Anderson.

    Anderson needs to be match with speed whos next??

  • metalmulisha says:

    danisocean “Ozz I agree Anderson would kill Fedor, I think Brock and Randy would both kill Fedor.”


  • edub says:

    Anybody know what weight they plan on boxing at?

  • edub says:

    Anderson and RJJ that is.

  • danisocean says:

    Im missing the joke??? Care to share?? metalmulisha

  • why has not one person commented on the incredible disappointment with the way Forrest handled the end of the fight… someone mentioned his fighting maturity, but what about his general maturity? A good percentage of these fighters are decorated with belts from martial arts disciplines that are based on honor and respect. I am sorry that he got owned in the octagon, but he needed to show respect for himself and his opponent. My son who is nearing his black belt in Tang Soo Do, was incredibly disappointed in Forrest for running away after the fight. any thoughts on this aspect of the loss?

  • La_Coka_Nostra says:

    In “Snatch” the fighter is supposed to go down in the fourth round in both bouts not the third. Poor Forest it’s so easy to set a guy up for a devastating loss when he will fight anyone.

  • cocoonofhorror says:

    Ando = metal Hando

  • MMA-LOGIC says:

    I can’t prove a thing, just putting it out there as a “what if”. The motivation was there, I mean imagine if Anderson had lost, after his last 2 fights his name, and ppv selling ability would have taken a huge blow. Thats huge money for the UFC to risk or to gain on such a fight.
    P.S. Anderson wouldn’t kill Fedor…I’m sure the ref would stop it long before that.

  • MMA-LOGIC says:

    Do you really think that a fight in the UFC has never been fixed s00nerpt?. A little naive don’t you think.
    Locker-room bonuses and putting pressure on fighters to have “exciting fights” is a form of fixing in it’s self. Not to mention that you can gamble on it and the company invests huge money each event and some heavily marketed fighters.
    But I’m sure you are right and no fights have been fixed or influenced at all, just like all steroid users have been caught.
    Rose colored glasses dude.
    P.S. Not saying it was fixed but Forrest did look unusually shit and in the words of Rogan “as much as I like Forrest this is one of the most embarrassing KOs I’ve ever seen…a back foot jab… it was just like a slap…it didn’t even look that hard”

  • edub says:

    This is no Eastman vs. Lutter. Now there was a fix.

  • shotokai_ says:

    Is that sarcasm edub?

  • fanoftna33 says:

    The first fixed fight in the ufc
    Oleg Taktaron vs Anthony Macias.
    In the ufc 6 these guys meet in the semi finals and it lasted all of 10 seconds with Macias putting his neck into Olegs arm and tapping very qiuckly. I dont know that it has happened since but it has happened.

  • ozz_the_powerful says:

    Maybe he was gassed and was just done? Those were same day multiple fights tournaments. Hell, Even Royce pulled out before due to exhaustion.

    I think it’s a little far fetched to think fights have been fixed. If anything we might want to take a look at some of the shit EliteXC pulled.

    Thomson’s Ear? Tank Abbott just falling over?

  • fanoftna33 says:

    Thoes two guys were training partners at the time, and Macias was a alternate whos first fight(at the time they had made all alternates have a fight first) lasted about 45 seconds. He was notified he had to fight Oleg and refused, ultimatly accepting the fight. Watch the tape it is very obvious.

  • ozz_the_powerful says:

    Oh well. I bet the same thing would happen if Lyoto & A Silva fought too.

    No comment on the EliteXC Garbage?

  • fanoftna33 says:

    It would be nice to see friends fight like the Sell vs Smith match, thoes two were friends but they let it all hang out.
    I think Elite XC had a lot more pressure to succede and have there #1 guy keep winning, and with that kind of pressure comes poor decisions. Back in thoes days stars were not manufactured like they are nowdays so it is very difficult to compaire.
    If elite xc fixed thoes fights they got what they deserved in the end.

  • MMA-LOGIC says:

    My last thoughts on the Anderson Silva fight. After knowing that he is probably the best counter striker in MMA and that he has been submitted twice and that the most success anyone has had against him recently was on the ground, what would your game plan be against “the Spider”?. Thats right! Stand and trade with slow head kicks (one where Silva would have had to jump to get hit by it), body shots and boxing as if you are sparring and finally running and lunging at him with your chin high and proud! That is a brilliant idea! but I don’t really know if it was Forrest’s idea. Hmmmm food for thought.


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