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UFC 83: Fight Critic Recap

icfc.jpgGeorges St. Pierre’s dominating performance over Matt Serra last night was the exact fight so many of us expected last April at UFC 69. It was such a commanding performance that I can’t help but feel it took away from the credibility of Serra’s dramatic upset over St. Pierre last year in Houston. Serra is a tremendous fighter worthy of respect, but I couldn’t prevent the word “fluke” from ringing inside of my head while watching St. Pierre’s dismantling of the Long Island native.

Since losing to Serra last year, St. Pierre has now recorded three dominating performances against three top fighters in his weight class. Neither Serra, Josh Koscheck, or Matt Hughes were able put St. Pierre in any kind of serious jeopardy in their fights. As such, I feel validated in my decision to proclaim GSP my number one pound-for-pound fighter ahead of UFC middleweight champion Anderson Silva.

St. Pierre was composed the entire time during the fight and displayed a good tactical game plan. He relied on his wrestling to control the fight in order to limit Serra’s opportunities to land the same big overhand right that floored GSP in their first encounter. When the fight went to the ground, St. Pierre widely avoided a jiu-jitsu showdown with the highly-regarded Renzo Gracie jiu-jitsu black belt. That aspect of his game plan was never more obvious then at the conclusion of the fight when St. Pierre chose not to take Serra’s back and instead chose to finish him with brutal knees to the body.

While the main event was terribly one-sided, it was still entertaining. And overall, I enjoyed last night’s show. In fact, last night’s UFC 83 show was much more enjoyable than that of the Ring Magazine light heavyweight title fight between Bernard Hopkins and Joe Calzaghe, which I viewed early Sunday morning on HBO during a replay. Being a Philadelphia native, I’ve always supported Hopkins so I was more interested in last night’s bout than I normally am when it comes to boxing these days. But as much as I enjoy watching Hopkins, last night’s bout was not easy to watch.

I find it comical when Jim Lampley climbs a top his soap box to extol the virtues of the “sweet science” of boxing, seemingly making the implication that every boxing match every held is a thing of beauty. There was nothing sweet or scientific about the early rounds of last night’s fight, as the first three rounds resembled a hockey fight. The fight improved once Calzaghe found his rhythm but there was too much clutching and grabbing for my taste.

And I still don’t get the hype surrounding Calzaghe. He’s a good fighter but I don’t see how anyone can consider him great. Outside of Hopkins and Jeff Lacy, who has this guy really fought? Is a victory over a 43-year old Hopkins supposed to validate him? While I believe that Adelaide Byrd dropped the ball and that the win should have been unanimous for Calzaghe, he was unable to dominate Hopkins. If he had fought a 38-year Hopkins or even a 40-year old Hopkins, I don’t think he wins the fight.

Again, I think Calzaghe is good. But great? No way. Fight some more fights outside of the U.K. against some top contenders and maybe I’ll change my opinion.

While GSP delivered in the main event, undercard performers Charles McCarthy, Kalib Starnes, and Travis Lutter all came up short in their respective fights. In light of the rumors that the UFC is planning on scaling back their roster of fighters from 200 to somewhere in the 130-160 range, if I were the manager for either of the three fighters, I’d be expecting a call from UFC Vice President of Talent Relations Joe Silva informing me that my client was no longer property of the UFC.

It’s hard to fault McCarthy too much because it was his first fight back in quite some time after a serious knee injury. However, he was simply over-matched by Michael Bisping, who looked like a completely different fighter competing at 185 lbs. instead of 205 lbs. Bisping looked focused and in incredible shape. It’s amazing how much his physique has changed and his addition to the UFC’s middleweight division is a welcome one.

Bisping looked outstanding in throwing his combinations last night, striking a slight resemblance to Silva in how fluid he was from transitioning from knees and kicks to punches and vice versa. There was just a natural flow to his strikes and he displayed a sweet science of MMA that Lampley selectively ignores. The only issue I saw with Bisping’s performance was a potential lack of power. The operative word is potential, because perhaps McCarthy has an awazing chin? I was just a little surprised that Bisping didn’t put him away sooner.

It should be clear to anyone following last night’s performance that Bisping is on a collision course with Silva. It’s not a question of if, only when. Despite the fact that there really aren’t any obvious money matchups immediately available for Silva, it might be wise for him to fight Yushin Okami next so that Bisping can get at least one-to-two more wins at 185 lbs. under his belt so that a Silva vs. Bisping showdown can be built up properly. You’d have to think that a Silva vs. Bisping title match would do huge business in the U.K.

Lutter managed to disappoint yet again. Just like his non-title fight vs. Silva at UFC 67 last February, Lutter achieved the mount position against his opponent but was unable to finish him. After that, it was the beginning of the end for Lutter, who looked heavily fatigued in the second round. It’s possible Lutter was in tremendous cardio condition coming into the fight and only looked gassed because he was absorbing tremendous knees to the body as well as some stiff punches to the face, but even the normally reserved Franklin felt it necessary to point out after the fight that Lutter is known for his lack of conditioning.

Lutter has all the talent in the world; great jiu-jitsu, better than average wrestling, and underrated punching power. His potential is why the UFC continually has given him chances but he has failed to deliver and I would suspect there’s a good chance that the promotion could be nearing a point where it is prepared to cut the cord.

While Franklin was not completely dominant during the fight, he was still impressive. To be honest, I was surprised he looked as sharp as he did. Prior to the fight, I was wondering how he would be able to motivate himself for Lutter having lost a second time to Silva this past October. There just doesn’t appear to be much upward mobility in the UFC’s middleweight division right now for Franklin. But he prepared for the fight vs. Lutter as if it was a title fight. Franklin also overcame the sudden loss of his father several months ago as well as knee surgery earlier this year. The man is a class act and a consumate professional and it’s a damn shame he’s stuck behind Silva.

What to do next with Franklin isn’t all that obvious. He’s in a holding pattern as long as Silva holds the UFC’s middleweight title. One match I’d love to see is a fight between Franklin and Dan Henderson. It would be a unique match because even though it would feature the second and third best middleweights in the UFC, it would not be a fight to determine a number one contender to Silva’s title. However, it would be a fight to determine who truly is the second best middleweight behind Silva, and possibly the number one contender to the title in the event he ever loses it.

Furthermore, a Franklin vs. Henderson fight might be the only non-title middleweight in the UFC that could headline a UFC pay-per-view event.

Starnes’ performance last night vs. Nate Quarry will possibly go down as one of the poorest historical showings to take place on a major televised MMA card. My wife remarked early on that it looked like a glorified sparring match and that he simply looked like he was trying to survive. Soon after my wife’s remark, the announcers on the broadcast, Mike Goldberg and Kenny Florian, echoed the same sentiments. The blunt assessment of Starnes’ performance was initially surprising to me as the UFC controls its own production but in hindsight, his unwillingness to fight was so blatant that it had to be addressed.

The strange thing was that Starnes appeared to be more feisty after the bout had concluded than he had during the entire 15 minutes of the fight. At one point Starnes challenged one of Quarry’s cornermen, and even resorted to using homosexual slurs on mic. Perhaps if he had shown some of the same aggressive nature during the fight that he exhibited after it, then he might not have been booed out of the building by a crowd that was initially eating out of his hand.

Perhaps Starnes was injured going into the fight but that still makes it tough to overlook the fact that he was literally running away from Quarry during the first round. And even if he was injured, it does not excuse the fact that he made no attempt to win the fight in the third round when it was abundantly clear that he was behind on points. I’ve heard that Starnes is a nice guy and I really do respect his ability as a fighter, but unless he has a valid explanation for his tactics last night, I don’t see how the UFC can justify bringing him back.

While the tape-delayed fight between Kuniyoshi Hironaka and Jonathan Goulet won fight of the night honors, according to UFC President Dana White during the post-fight press conference (best submission went to Demian Maia while best knockout went to Jason MacDonald… and unless I heard incorrectly, it sounded as though White said during the post-fight presser that the bonuses were $75,000), my personal fight of the night was Mac Danzig vs. Mark Bocek (I didn’t see Hironaka vs. Goulet because I had to get to work on my writeup of the show).

Bocek’s overall MMA skills improve each time out and there were a lot of great back-and-forth exchanges between he and Danzig. The ground fighting was especially high-level and the win has to be considered a strong one for Danzig even though Bocek doesn’t have the biggest name in the sport right now.

The outstanding performances turned in during last night’s card weren’t just exclusive to the fighters that competed. Last night marked the first time Florian provided color commentary for an entire UFC show. Pinch hitting for an absent Joe Rogan, Florian got the job done.

One thing that I think stood out was Florian’s keen insight. He was really on top of pointing out insightful observations (such as Quarry’s improved body movement) and I felt he stole a lot of thunder in what I intended to point out in this writeup. It didn’t seem like Florian missed anything during the fight. Florian was by no means perfect, but he was outstanding for someone in their first full broadcast and clearly has a future as a color commentator if he wants it.

I was also surprised by the performance of Goldberg. I think this was his best effort in a long-time. There are just times where I feel like he’s winging. I don’t know whether that’s truly the case, but that is just how he comes off to me at times. However, he was very sharp last night and it almost seemed like he felt like he needed to step up in Rogan’s absence because he was working with a rookie commentator in Florian. Is it just me, or does it seem like Goldberg relies on Rogan too much as a safety net? I’d like to see him come out with the same authoritative approach he used last night for all of the telecasts that he does.

My only real production-related issue last night was the extended duration between bouts, something that has become a staple of UFC telecasts. I paid more attention to the lags between fights and determined it is because they dedicate too much time to promotion and filler. Yes, a broadcast needs to have those elements but the amount viewers are subjected to by Zuffa is borderline gratuitous. The problem is easily correctable by streamlining and economizing the vignettes that are shown between the fights. I don’t think we needed to see that extended vignette promoting the St. Pierre and Serra fight right before they went on when they had been teasing the main event all night long.

In closing, I’d like to send out a big f— you to DirecTV. For reasons that are still unknown, I lost reception on my HD receiver. After ordering the HD broadcast I called DirecTV at 9:30 p.m. ET and was unable to get the problem resolved. I was subjected to a ridiculously configured automated menu clearly designed to limit access to live representatives (which is bullshit considering the amount of money I pay them each month).

After 25 minutes of waiting on hold, I was then promptly placed on hold again after explaining my problem. At 10:05 p.m. ET, I finally gave up and thankfully had decided to order the standard definition broadcast at 9:55 p.m. ET (if I had waited until 10:00 p.m. ET, I would not have been able to order because DirecTV inexplicably does not allow you to order a live event even a minute after it has started). I was able to watch the SD broadcast on an older TV but am now faced with the task of calling in again today to demand a refund of the HD telecast when they claim orders are non-refundable. The non-service I received last night is unacceptable.

  • Andy says:

    I had a similar problem with directv, and I too had to wait, my 2nd receiver wasn’t getting the event, I just barely got to watch the beginning of the 1st fight, I was pretty pissed. They had an unusual high call volume last night.

    Bisping looked better than I have ever seen him! He was so fast, and chiseled, even his face looked skinnier and muscular. Looking forward to more of him at middleweight.

    I was disappointed in Matt Serra! I was rooting for the underdog but he couldn’t do a dam thing! St. Pierre makes it look so easy, and it made me think their last fight George just wanted to trade strikes cause he was too overconfident.
    St. Pierre showed us what true MMA is all about. Congrats on the title!!

  • dice says:

    “And overall, I enjoyed last night’s show.”


    Even though every single fight was pretty one sided (and not the exciting type of one sided fights where guys get KTFO).

    We had one fight with a guy who pretty much ran away from any exchanges (starnes), another with a guy who just gassed (lutter), and then yet another where the guy just covered up anytime punches were thrown (mcCarthy).

    And Matt Serra looked liked he wasn’t going in that fight to win but just trying to see how long he could survive. So I agree that one can’t help but think that the first fight was nothing more than a fluke win.

    Maybe you are just excited that GSP redeemed himself and that he helped his case of being the best P4P fighter; but those who enjoyed last nights show must have been watching a different card than I did.

    Because the card I saw made me want to call my cable company and act liked I accidentally ordered UFC 83.

  • Brent says:

    Pretty poor show, going by the televised bouts – haven’t watched the undercard yet.

  • mike wolfe says:

    I’m not ready to jump on a Bisping band wagon just yet. McCarthy was unable to mount any meaningful offense. Put Bisping in the octagon with a fighter who has comparable conditioning and a credible striking game, and it’s a very close match. I don’t think he could handle Franklin, for example.

    Speaking of Franklin, his escape from Lutter’s arm bar was the highlight of the evening, imo. I said out loud when Lutter grabbed Franklin’s arm that the fight was over, and by the time I finished saying it, Franklin had countered and escaped. It was even more impressive to me because Franklin looked almost dazed as he walked down to the octagon, like he wasn’t focused.

    I was also impressed by Mack Danzig. He is big, strong, and well conditioned. No lack of focus, either.

  • Evan says:

    I thought it was great, I enjoyed it.

  • demonianray says:

    That’s why I changed providers. DirecTV sucks ass

  • truth says:

    Rich Franklin was not impressive, he looked drugged. Mac Danzig impressed people ? How, by putting away a fighter with a 3rd of his experience in the 3rd round. Weak card. Problem was you’ve got a number of fighters not at the top of the game, Kalib Starnes, Charles McCarthy, Lutter and then these guy proceed to put on the worst showing of thier career all on the same night! So even the victor of these matches was robbed. GSP ,Goulet (comin back) and Quarry (for his patience) are the only people that impressed me.

  • Davey D says:

    I personally enjoyed last night’s telecast. Mac Danzig & Bocek put on one hell of a show. Mac looked like an old school boxer in there, just ready to fight where ever the game went. Can’t wait to see his next fight.

    I liked the Mac fight better than Goulet/Hironaka. I guess maybe Dana thought it was best for a Canadian to win the F.O.T.N. honor’s. Since it ended via KO, that makes it all the more better.

    Bisping looked as best as we’ve ever seen him and I agree with Sam, in that he could fight Silva somewhere down the line. MW really is where he needs to be. Okami gets the next shot at Anderson first. Maybe we’ll see Bisping vs. MacDonald next?

    Rich Franklin showed me why he belongs in the UFC. I thought the fight was over when Lutter got the armbar. His escape & compousure was textbook and very well done. I’d really like to see how “Ace” would do against Dan Henderson. If Dan wants to stay at MW, he should consider this bout. Deffinatly headliner status worthy.

    The Kalib Starnes fiasco was downright disappointing. I can’t believe he fought the way he did. Maybe he should be outed for his actions unless he explains to Dana and Joe what the hell happened with VERY good reasoning. He did nothing but waste quailty air time which could’ve had another bout in it’s place.

    I hope the next time, Nate Quarry gets a better opponent. He did what he needed to win the fight. He shouldn’t have to chase someone around for 15 minutes. At least not in the UFC.

    Watch out for Demian Maia. The ending, if you saw it was…WOW. He had Herman in what looked like a reverse triangle and was beating the ever loving shit out of him before he tapped due to strikes. I really wish we could’ve seen that entire bout. He should get some well deserved air time next time around. Maia vs. Quarry sounds good to me.

    I saw UFC 83 last night at Hooter’s. I couldn’t really hear the sound all to well so I missed Kenny’s debut for the most part. He looked a little nervous standing next to Mac Danzig, just my take.

    It was cool to enjoy the evening with friend’s I haven’t got to see in a while thus, I missed more of the show than I wanted. Overall, I had a good time. I will not be going there for UFC 84 though. Too many good bouts going on to miss the commentary on that one. The Prodigy vs. The Muscle Shark, WAND VS. Jardine, Jennito vs. The Dragon. It’s all less than 40 days away.

    Lastly…I am still waiting for the day the UFC returns to Detroit, Michigan. Make it happen Dana White.

  • Fujin says:

    Bisping looked good but honestly all his fight proved is (like was said in this post) he lacks real power behind his strikes and he still has no takedown defense. The only takedown attempt by McCarthy ended up with a easy double leg and a slam.

  • blakspring says:

    you hit the nail on the head witht he word “fluke”. that’s exactly my feeling too. serra got really lucky the first time with GSP and there was no way he was going to do it again.
    GSP was amzing and is really the best fighter out there.
    overall, the rest of the fights were not the greatest but then again i wouldn’t last 20 seconds in the octagon so who am i to talk.

  • Ronin says:

    Goldberg was as awful as ever I thought even worse without Joe.
    Goldberg performance really shows how much Rogan carries the commentating.
    Kenny well he was just ok..

  • Rich S. says:

    “And Matt Serra looked liked he wasn’t going in that fight to win but just trying to see how long he could survive”


    Serra’s guard was very active.. he was going for armbars.. and he was moving around trying to avoid damage.. it’s just.. GSP is extremely strong for 170.. he’s sooo strong that it’s almost unfair.. therefore, he had his way with Serra.. exactly what should’ve happened the first time.. idk, at least the veteran, Serra, can now say that he was a world champion..

    “I said out loud when Lutter grabbed Franklin’s arm that the fight was over, and by the time I finished saying it, Franklin had countered and escaped”

    hahaha.. sounds like you pulled a “Frank Mir”.

    With the exception of another Miracle KO [like the one from Serra] GSP’s going to reign supreme into weight change or retirement.. i mean, the only people who are anywhere close to title contention have either been beaten by GSP before [Kos, Karo] or are just no where near his calibur [Fitch, Alves]. IDK, we could see a GSP/Hughes IV.. but.. that would just be pointless..

    i’m thinkin’ we might see some match-ups like this, soon:

    well, maybe finally Serra/Hughes
    Danzig/Goulet, Danzig/”Rumble” Johnson, Danzig/Chris Wilson maybe.. idk..

    who agrees that Franklin vs. Wandy [after a move to MW] would be AMAZING!!

  • Rich S. says:

    did Florian say that GSP was the best wrestler in the world last night??

    pretty bold statement.. but.. idk.. others that come to mind.. Sherk.. Hughes.. have both been dominated by GSP.. soooo.. i guess he is..

  • Michaelthebox says:

    Dude, Danzig’s a LW now.

  • revjames13 says:

    Bisping looks like he’s found his weight class, but I’d have to say his strongest points are that he stays busy and has decent defense on the ground. He doesn’t appear to have a lot of power, his punches and knees often seem more for show than business. That said, he did finish the fight, and no one has finished him thusfar. I’d like to see him with a striker that will press the action, like Leben. He’s definitely not ready for the likes of Franklin or Hendo. They would walk through him right now. And even mentioning Anderson Silva at this point is a joke. Bisping needs to be brought along slowly like Forrest Griffin and then, when the time is right, after 3 or 4 more fights, give him someone in the top 5.

    I didn’t see the live telecast, only cut short web stuff. Obviously GSP was going to town on him, but has there been any talk, from Serra or anyone else, of the fight being stopped prematurely? He was taking some knees to the ribs, yes, but he was covering up his head and the round was almost over. Unless those knees were cracking his ribs, I don’t see why he can’t last out the round. It wouldn’t change the outcome (I had GSP by third round GnP stoppage btw) but I thought Serra could have kept going. Never seen a fight stopped in that manner before. Seems like you would give a guy of Serra’s caliber more credit for his ability to continue in that situation. No way they stop the fight if it’s GSP turtled up eating Serra knees. That said, I’m happy with the outcome, because the fight I most want to see is GSP/PENN.

  • Mikey Gilz says:

    I would have given any amount of money to sit next to Dana White during the Quarry/Starnes match.

  • revjames13 says:

    To continue in that vein, before GSP is declared invincible (like Anderson Silva) he’s got to beat BJ Penn. When they fought BJ was not in the shape he’s in now and he put GSP in the hospital and walked away unscathed. GSP may have won the athletic contest. He was rightly the points victor based on takedowns. But if it was a schoolyard fight, BJ would have won. So, in the eyes of many, that fight was like a draw. They definitely have unfinished business and both have improved since that fight. BJ has made it clear he wants GSP. And he is the one guy I[d bet my life that GSP couldn’t dominate.

  • A couple of thoughts about last night:

    – I watched Hopkins vs. Cal and then flipped on over to UFC. The debate I am having is, in general which is better a really crappy fight with one knockdown vs. a real good ufc card with numerous fights ending in quick knockouts.

    – Michael Bisping should not have been fighting anyone other than Matt Hamil. Seriously, I don’t care how many wins Bisping has on his record in the future, I have problems taking him seriously if there is no rematch, especially a rematch in a nuetral ring.

    – Speaking of being neutral, Danna White needs to stop this utter crappy respect for champions. I understand that you are trying to expand your sport but having CHAMPIONS fight on someone else’s home turf is complete disrespect. (No wonder Randy left).

    – That leads me to my next point, I understand that Serra probably would have lost in any setting, but seriously wouldn’t the simple crappy ring entrance, or the screaming and shouting of a hometown, get anyone at least a little off their game. Simply put, he beat GSP once, GSP beat him once, no matter the outcome, Serra deserves a rematch.

    – Speaking of GSP, the man was fighting a fighter who just had his first fight in almost a year, came back from a neck injury, and wasn’t even fighting in his home country, yes GSP performed the way I expected under these circumstances.

    – More GSP: Excellent fight on his part, but to call last fight a fluke is taking away too much from Serra to satisfy your own argument. You must understand, that on any given night anyone can get caught and it’ll be over. There is just a couple of seconds away from a missed punched and a perfect blow, GSP failed to understand this. Serra excuted a gameplan that worked that night. If it was not a fluke, GSP would have never made adjustments like he did in this fight. If it was a fluke, he would have stood up with him and striked and proved that he was the better striker. Instead he admitted that Serra’s striking presents a bad matchup or exposes a FLAW in GSP’s striking that does not involve a superpunch, and took a different path to victory.

  • Rich S. says:

    i knew that Bocek guy was a LW.. that’s why i checked and they still have Mac as 170.. sooo.. just a misunderstanding

  • mike wolfe says:


    When the ref stopped the GSP/Serra fight, I was surprised, too. But on the replay Serra wasn’t doing anything to defend, and he had been dominated in the moments leading up to the stop. Also, although the camera wasn’t on him the whole timeright after the stop, he didn’t protest the stop, at least not that I could see. He’s too proud to verbally tap, but I think he knew it wasn’t his night.

    I can’t get that pumped about Goulet’s win. He was dominating, got sloppy and almost lost. No credit for that, imo.

  • Andy says:

    5%bodyfat I second your GSP evaluation, you hit the nail on the head!

  • Mr. Blonde says:

    This might seem weird, but so were Starnes’ actions…

    Do you think Starnes went in thinking he would retire after the fight? The song he came in to was “Bittersweet Symphony,” he was in his home country…I don’t know. Maybe he knew this was his farewell, because it definitely appeared that his heart wasn’t in the fight.

    It’s very difficult to question a fighter’s motives; hell, just getting in the cage means you have more heart than 99% of the population. At the same time, Khalib has always appeared to fight because he thinks that he should, not because he wants or has to. Factor in that mindset with him not being able to get off early against Quarry, and maybe he just checked out, waiting for time to run out on the fight and his career.

    Either way, I feel for him; that performance is what he’ll be remembered for, and I wouldn’t wish that on anybody.

  • Zack says:

    1. They need to make Bisping vs Leben ASAP
    2. Serra’s win over GSP was a fluke and now he should be slotted somewhere in the bottom half of the top 10 WWs.
    3. GSP is still #2 lb for lb. Silva beats people at their own game, GSP adjusts to his opponents.
    4. The UFC should seriously consider making more of these weaker cards free on Spike.

  • revjames13 says:

    Before we right off Serra as non-top 5 material, we need to see how he performs against Hughes. Remember that he is coming off an injury and hasn’t fought in a year. That is a terrible terrible way to come into a fight against one of the sports best fighters going to war in his home town. All things considered (one of them being that GSP is a better fighter) he did alright. Sure he got dominated, but GSP fought the smartest possible fight, which was to wrestle him, avoid serious exchanges, and tire him out. When Serra returns to top form, I think he’s a tough test for Fitch, Kos, Alves, Diego, Karo, all those guys lingering around the same ability level. Not saying he beats all of them, but he makes it a close call. I give Hughes a slight advantage over him, that’s it. Only BJ Penn is at GSP’s talent level and can beat him when GSP actually fights up to his ability. There’s no use talking about him fighting Silva. That’s utter nonsense right now.

  • revjames13 says:

    “write” off

  • ctownhood says:

    I agree this card was not of PPV caliber, but let’s remember the freebie they gave us a few weeks ago on Spike. Seems all the good fights on this one happened on the undercard.

  • Thomas says:

    can we update those welterweight rankings and remove serra from the top 10….personally even tho he was the champ, should not have been in that top 10 anyways.

  • Fujin says:

    #23: While I agree the card on a whole was fairly weak, I don’t think the UFC will be putting many cards on Spike TV for free when they can be making money with PPVs. Of course we don’t have the figures yet (more like I don’t know where to find them), but I imagine this PPV sold pretty well.

  • hindsightufuk says:

    UFC ppv are always gonna sell well, but for me they are getting less and less impressive. why was Kalib Starnes ever allowed on ppv? no disrespect but im yet to see anything from him. Nate Quarry could have looked good but i guess we’ll have to wait and see, look forward to seeing him again soon. Bisping was ok, needs more power less speed, he was throwing those knees so fast they werent causing enough damage. out of interest anyone know why charles mccarthy quit? broken arm maybe? didnt look like he took any solid shots.
    Surley UFC have better fighters available to show us than 83’s calibre? franklin looked poor, lutter poorer. danzig was entertaining, and obviously the main event was good.

    I wanted to see the clementi stout fight, anyone see it? was it any good? thought it had potential to stand out.

  • Jay says:

    Kalib Starnes is the worst fighter under the UFC banner period. What a total bitch.

    I knew he was a punk before that fight and he just cemented that thought.

    get a new career Kalib… is short and McDonalds needs fry cooks.

  • Echolocating says:

    I was not impressed with this card’s performance. 😉

    It wasn’t bad, but the effort put forth in ensuring Canadian fighters were featured hurt the event. Starnes gets on the main card after losing to Belcher, while Belcher is relegated to the undercard? I think this is the first time I can blame Joe Silva for doing a poor job. Maybe Joe doesn’t realize that a lot of Canadians watch the UFC and actually fly down to view the events? Many US events are actually closer for a lot of Canadians to attend than Americans traveling within their own country. But, whatever. The only Canadians I was actually interested in were GSP, Macdonald (just wondering if he’s actually improving his game or not), and Day (just because he beat Loiseau and I was wondering if he was the real deal — obviously his win over The Crow was no fluke). However, to Joe Silva’s defense, losing Patrick Cote was a huge blow to the potential on this card.

    When the UFC comes back to Canada, I can only hope they put on a good card… instead of a largely Canadian card. Canadians know they don’t have a lot of talent in the UFC. It’s okay, we know. We have 10% of the US’ population and because our citizens are spread so thinly in many regions, we don’t have an attractive competitive combat sports scene with that 10% of potential (so chop that 10% to at least 5% or even less). I live 20 minutes from Edmonton, Alberta and our high school didn’t even have an art class, let alone a wrestling team (15 years ago, mind you). Also, and I know a lot of Americans have a problem realizing this, Canada is a truly “multicultural society”. That means we appreciate watching anybody fight anybody… while drinking beer… in between hockey games, of course. 😉

  • king mah mah says:

    What echolocating just said is right on the money. Canada is much like america. I mean i would rather watch a bunch of good brazilians than a bunch of pu**y americans if it came down to it.

  • mike wolfe says:

    This morning the local paper in my community ran a story from the AP wire about the GSP/Serra fight on the front page of the sports section. That’s the first time the paper has run a story about MMA, to my knowledge. Proves to me that MMA is really on the ups right now.

  • dice says:

    # 12 Rich S. Says:
    April 20th, 2008 at 2:01 pm
    “And Matt Serra looked liked he wasn’t going in that fight to win but just trying to see how long he could survive”


    First off us my name when putting something I wrote in quotes.

    You think that Serra was mounting a real offensive attack in that fight because he threw a few elbows (from the guard) and had a few armbar attempts that weren’t even close? He was just trying to survive that fight and if you think any different then you need to watch it again. He was overmatched and overwelhmed. While watching that fight never did I think to myself “Serra is really trying to win this thing”.

    # 18 5percentbodyfat Says:
    April 20th, 2008 at 2:39 pm
    A couple of thoughts about last night:

    – “I watched Hopkins vs. Cal and then flipped on over to UFC. The debate I am having is, in general which is better a really crappy fight with one knockdown vs. a real good ufc card with numerous fights ending in quick knockouts.”

    Reading some of the posts here I can’t help but wonder if I saw an entirely different card. Numerous quick knockouts? Who? When? UFC 83 had no such thing. You had one guy just gas and pretty much quit (lutter), another who covered up and just quit at the end of the round (McCarthy) and finally one where the guy on his elbows and knees taking kidney shots before the Ref stopped it (serra). Other than the prelim fight shown after the main event, I saw no quick knockouts.

  • Shaun says:

    I thought it was funny that the majority of the fights were one sided and all the losers put on the most pathetic performances ever. Kalib running, McCarthy just covering up, Serra just laying in on his back, Lutter gassed out with his hands down.

    I normally respect both competitors for just getting in the cage, but it’s like c’mon. You know this is the UFC and that fighting there is a chance that a lot of fighters dream of.

    Overall no matter the reason or excuse I lost all respect for Lutter gassing out at the end of the 1st round. You have no excuse at all. Making weight, injury, personal problems. You lost the chance to be a champ because you gassed out, you lost the chance again because you gassed out. Freaking fight at 205 if it’s going to effect our cardio that bad. Honestly he called bs to Franklin. It’s just completely pathetic and I can’t respect that.

  • Louie says:

    When I order the HD PPV from DirecTV I always get the SD version for free on all TVs in the house. So even if the HD receiver or transmission didn’t work there is always a backup.

    Also, the 3 hour blocks of porn on DirecTV — you can order those up until 30 minutes after the block has started.

  • Danny says:

    technically he never had a chance at the title becuz he never made weight. losing was just even more punishment at that point. besides, franklin is on different level than silva when it comes to takedown defense. sure he had almost had rich armbarred but he also had silva mounted so i dont know what his excuse is 4 not being able to finish someone.

  • Mike Wolfe says:

    I’m not going to defend Lutter’s conditioning, but Franklin was visibly tired in the second round, too. Franklin has always come to fight in good shape, so maybe that fight was more demanding than some people think.

  • Rich S. says:

    agreed, wolfe…

    although Rich was actually keeping his hands up.. he was huffin’ and puffin’ in the second round.. i mean, you can tell just by the way he finished it that he was worn out.. Lutter’s hands were down.. and Rich just stood there.. i mean, he threw a few punches but they weren’t too powerful.. a healthy/in-shape Rich could’ve knocked Lutter clean out.. idk.. for a guy who went five rounds with an athlete like Loiseau, gassing in the 2nd round is NOT A GOOD SIGN.. maybe it was just because he was spending the entire first round getting out of mount, keeping guard, and avoiding subs/takedowns.. as i was watching him.. it reminded me of how he looked in his fights with Silva.. you know, his head was real low, mouth open, and he had that kinda sad expression on his face..

    now that he’s past Lutter.. that just opens the door to endless tough opponents for him in the future.. so.. he needs to keep the cardio up..

  • Zack says:

    I noticed the same thing about Franklin. The high kick in the second basically emptied Lutter’s gas tank, but Rich couldn’t/didn’t do much to put him away. Could be some evidence that Rich really did have problems motivating himself for a non-title fight. I hope that’s not the case, as I’d really like to see him against Henderson and Marquadt.

  • Mike Wolfe says:

    How many more fights does Franklin have left under his current contract?


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