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Dana White responds to Josh Gross?

Maybe I shouldn’t be posting this because it’s not 100% verified that Dana White actually wrote the below message, but it’s too interesting not to. In an apparent response to an open letter to Sherdog’s Josh Gross, it looks as though UFC president Dana White might have seen the letter and decided to speak out on the Underground forum at If it’s not Dana White, then whoever typed the letter must be a student of his speech patterns:

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Date: 07/20/07 09:38 PM
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My response to idiot Gross: Its funny how when bad things happen, you love to call me out and say that I need to jump in and fix it. All the positive things that Zuffa has done over the past 6 years and you write me an open letter telling me to fix the problem of fighters using steroids? You are the biggest idiot I have ever met in this industry. Josh “holier than now” Gross writes a letter full of insults and sarcasm about what my company and I have accomplished since buying the UFC- like it was some easy chore. This is the same scumbag who released the finalists of TUF season 4 before it even aired. Josh, before you start trying to fix my company, worry about the potential lying, corruptions and inaccuracies at your own shitty website.

To all the fighters out there that fight for me or another promotion: these fan boy websites come kissing your ass when they want to shoot video of you or get an interview so they can make money off you. But when you make a mistake, they will be right there to kick your teeth down your throat. One of the great things that has happened over the past 6 years is that real media covers us now. So when these fan boy self proclaimed MMA websites want to do video interviews or any other kind of interview to make themselves money tell them to stop calling you and leave you alone. They are not doing you any favors- they are making money off of you. I have not let Sherdog into a UFC event in years. And the UFC is doing just fine.

Anyway, back to steroids- every athlete on this planet knows what’s going on with steroids right now and we make it very clear what the athletic commission will do to them if they are caught. In fact, to my knowledge, athletes competing in combative sports are the only ones in the world who get drug tested by the government, that’s a pretty high standard to meet. Imagine if every NBA, MLB or NFL athlete was drug tested by the government every time they competed? That’s a very high standard yet UFC fighters face government drug testing every time they enter the Octagon.

Everyone knows that it hurts me and my company badly when one of my fighters tests positive for steroids. Listen Josh “save the whales” Gross- I can’t save the world by myself. So roll your boss back into the ocean and write a letter “Attention all promoters.” When your product is human beings, there are always going to be problems and nothing is ever going to be perfect.

Gross, you have no clue the stuff I deal with on a daily basis with fighters. Myself and the UFC are adamantly opposed to the use of steroids or any other kind of drugs. Most of these guys that fight in the UFC are my friends and I care about them. My job isn’t to smash them publicly and ruin their lives. Apparently, that’s your job. My job is to help them through whatever problems they might have- professional or personal.

I don’t know if anyone has ever seen Josh Gross but the guy has never done anything athletic in his entire life. And you only have to see Jeff Sherwood and his staff to know the same thing about them. These people don’t know the first thing about the demands and challenges that professional athletes are faced with. I have my own opinion of Sherdog and Gross and how they run their business but I don’t write open letters to the public about it. So for these goofy supposed fan boy clowns to sit around and write letters about what I need to do with my company and my athletes is fucking hilarious.

You guys just keep selling DVDs and chasing my guys around for video interviews so you can make more money and keep eating and I will handle the UFC and it’s fighters.

Dana White

  • says:

    Could this be from Dana White? Hmmm, let’s evaluate it:

    Namecalling? Check.
    Defensive and insecure? Check.
    Excuses for steroids? Check.
    Fat jokes? Check.
    Small-minded? Check.
    Hostile to scrutiny? Check.

    Personally, I wasn’t crazy about the sarcasm in Josh’s letter to Dana. And Dana gave it right back in spades. This is almost shaping up like one of the UFC’s WWE style fighter-feuds. Too bad. Because there is substance to this conversation and MMA is at a crossroads due to steroids. Both Josh and Dana are leaders playing distinctly different roles, as media commentator and company man (sorta like Dan Rather and George W. Bush, no?). Anyhow, Dana should be more open to constructive criticism and input from the thriving outposts of MMA fans like Sherdog. Dissing people by name because they aren’t athelets shows a real disrespect for the role of fans who also invest time and money supporting a sport. Pundits are a sign of a viable field of competition. Dana should extect to hear from them and he should realize his responsibility in world of MMA.

  • says:

    Talk about double idiot power.

  • says:

    Has there been any confirmation that this was in fact from Dana? Besides the fact someone says it is?

  • says:

    Whether it’s really from Dana or not, who knows, but it does contain lots of slaps at the UFC’s fans, so it probably is.

  • says:

    I’m not sure if this is Dana:
    Number of F-bombs = 1

  • says:

    I found both rants annoying.

  • says:

    “Both Josh and Dana are leaders…”

    lol at Josh being the leader of anything.

  • says:

    It must be tiresome to consistently need to manufacture bullshit topics for others to talk about, just to keep yourself top of mind every day.

    What’s the difference between these two guys talking crap about each other through message board posting and two high school teen queens hating on each other through MySpace. Besides the several million dollars that Dana controls, not too much.

    MMA should be more about the fights and the fighters than a fight promoter telling a webmaster that his site sucks. Give me a friggin break.

  • says:

    Sam, care to comment?

  • says:


    No comment :)

  • says:

    IF it is white, then it’s funny for him to get all “it aint just me” about this. It obviously isn’t just him, but is “they do it too!” a good response from mr. tough-guy dana white? i thought UFC was something special?

    but they do it too! so its ok. feh.


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